Tipu Sultan: Villain or Hero? by the Bombay Malayalee Samajam ; The Histoire d l'Inde, French historian Alain Danielou

TIPU SULATAN: VILLIAN OR HERO??!! How hundreds of Hindu Namboodri Brahmins were converted to Islam under extreme duress: The Indian Hitler??!!

In 1989, the Indian National Television, Doordarshan, ran a serial on Tipu Sultan, ruler of Mysore from 1782 to 1799 A.D. With the lofty objective of national integration and communal harmony, the national TV presented Tipu Sultan as a hero of Hindu-Muslim amity and a staunch freedom fighter against the British. 

Based on a novel by Bhagwan Gidwani, the docudrama "The Sword of Tipu Sultan" provoked widespread outrage. Tipu Sultan: Villain or Hero? originally published by the Bombay Malayalee Samajam, is an anthology of essays that excoriates Doordarshan's depiction of Tipu Sultan and criticizes the peculiar "secularism" practised by the contemporary Indian State.

In the words of Ravi Varma, one of the contributors to the anthology: "It was Tipu Sultan and his fanatic Muslim army who converted thousands of Hindus to Islam all along the invasion route and occupied areas in North Kerala, Coorg, Mangalore, and other parts of Karnataka. 

Besides over 8,000 Hindu temples were desecrated and/or destroyed by his Muslim army. Even today, one can see large concentrations of Muslims and ruins of hundreds of destroyed temples in North Kerala as standing evidence of the Islamic brutalities committed by Tipu Sultan ... 

He was, all through, waging a cruel Islamic war against the Hindu population of Kerala, with a large Muslim army and ably assisted by the French with powerful field guns and European troops. ...

In spite of all this, historical documents and records are being suppressed, distorted, and falsified in order to project this fanatic Tipu Sultan of Mysore as a national hero like Chhatrapati Shivaji, Maharaja Ranjit Singh, Rana Pratap Singh, and Pazhassi Raja of Kerala. It is an insult to our national pride and also to the Hindus of Kerala by our 'secular' government and the motivated Muslim and Marxist historians of Jawaharlal Nehru, Aligarh, and Islamia universities.

So what do the original sources tell us about Tipu? The anthology includes excerpts from Tipu's letters as researched by the distinguished Kerala historian K. M. Panicker, which he reviewed in the Bhasha Poshini magazine, August 1923:

1. Letter dated March 22, 1788, to Abdul Kadir: "Over 12,000 Hindus were honoured with Islam. There were many Namboodri Brahmins among them. This achievement should be widely publicised among the Hindus. Then the local Hindus should be brought before you and converted to Islam. No Namboodri Brahmin should be spared. 

2. Letter dated December 14, 1788, to his army chief in Calicut: " I am sending two of my followers with Mir Hussain Ali. With their assistance, you should capture and kill all Hindus. Those below 20 may be kept in prison and 5000 from the rest should be killed from the tree-tops. These are my orders."

3. Letter dated January 18, 1790, to Syed Abdul Dulai: " ...almost all Hindus in Calicut are converted to Islam. I consider this as Jehad."

The anthology also quotes from A Voyage to the East Indies by Fra Barthoelomeo, a renowned Portuguese traveller and historian, who was present in Tipu's war zone in early 1790:

"First a corps of 30,000 barbarians who butchered everybody on the way ... followed by the field gun unit under the French commander, M. Lally. Tipu was riding on an elephant behind which another army of 30,000 soldiers followed. Most of the men and women were hanged in Calicut, first mothers were hanged with their children tied to necks of mothers. 

That barbarian Tipu Sultan tied the naked Christian and Hindus to the legs of elephants and made the elephants to move around till the bodies of the helpless victims were torn to pieces. Temples and churches were ordered to be burned down, desecrated, and destroyed. ... 

Those Christians who refused to be honoured with Islam were ordered to be killed by hanging immediately. These atrocities were told to me by the victims of Tipu Sultan who escaped from the clutches of his army and reached Varapphuza, which is the centre of Carmichael Christian Mission. I myself helped many victims to cross the Varapphuza river by boats. 

Moreover, evidence of Tipu's atrocities abounds in many contemporary church records in Mangalore, Calicut, and Varapphuza. In the preface, Sita Ram Goel observes that the contemporary Indian State, under the sway of a distorted concept of secularism, promotes pseudo-history. 

"Secularism per se is a doctrine which arose in the modern West as a revolt against the closed creed of Christianity .... But secularism in India became the greatest protector of closed creeds which had come with foreign invaders and kept tormenting the national society for several centuries." 

This pseudo-secularism, foisted by Nehru, is "a magic formula for transmuting base metal into 24-carat gold.... How else do we explain Islam becoming a religion of tolerance? One has only to go the original sources in order to understand the true character of Islam. 

How do we explain Tipu Sultan and Bahadur Shah Zafar becoming the heroes of India's freedom struggle against British imperialism?"

Goel's comment on Nehruvian pseudo-secularism brings to mind Vallabhbhai Patel's famous remark, just before the partition, that in India there's only one nationalist Muslim: Jawaharlal Nehru. 

And, three decades before the partition of India, Sri Aurobindo raised the question about the fundamental intolerance of Islam: "How is it possible to live peacefully with a religion whose principle is 'I will not tolerate you?' How are you going to have unity with these people?" Sri Aurobindo cited the Koranic injunction (chapter IX, verse 5): "Slay the Idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them captive, and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent [i.e. convert to Islam] and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave them free. Lo! Allah is forgiving, merciful."

Does the Doordarshan serial's characterization of Tipu in "The Sword of Tipu Sultan" as a patron of Hindu temples have any historical basis at all? Yes, says C. Nandagopal Menon, the convenor of the Bombay Malayalee Samajam: "Tipu had immense faith in astrology. It was at the appeal of his Hindu astrologer and his own mother that Tipu spared two temples out of 12 within Sriangapatnam Fort. Moreover, by the end of 1790, Tipu was facing enemies from all sides. He was also defeated at the Travancore Defence Lines. 

It was only then, in order to appease the Hindus of Mysore, that he gave some land-grants to Hindu temples."

The Doordarshan serial seized on this historical event and fabricated most of the other events in its so-called "docudrama." 

As to Tipu's struggle against the British, it was to maintain his usurped kingdom, not as a nationalist fight for freedom. This is clear from the historical documents in which he invited the French to join him to defeat the British and then divide South India between himself and the French.

Dr. P.C.C. Raja, a direct descendent of the Zamorin of Calicut, writes in the anthology: "Tipu Sultan was one of the worst fanatics, and more inhuman than even the Nazis." The Bombay Malayalee Samajam and numerous viewers, especially in Kerala, were as outraged by the pseudo-history of this TV serial as the Jews would be at a depiction of Hitler as a multicultural hero!

Historical evidence has clearly established that Tipu Sultan was, to put it mildly, no multicultural hero. Indian State TV's promotion of the serial's pseudo-history, in the name of secularism no less, was a flagrant exercise of pseudo-secularism. It is precisely to repudiate this sort of wishful, self-deluding pseudo-history that Koenraad Elst, the Belgian scholar, recently published Negationism in India: Concealing the Record of Islam (published by theVoice of India) . To be sure, other Western historians have written of this record before. 

In The Histoire d l'Inde, French historian Alain Danielou wrote: "From the time Muslims started arriving in 632 A.D., the history of India becomes a long monotonous series of murders, massacres, spoilations, destructions. It is as usual in the name of 'a holy war' of their faith, their sole God, that the barbarians have destroyed civilisations." 

In the words of the well-known American historian,Will Durant, "the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident lesson is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate balance can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without and multiplication from within."

The historical record of Islamic ideology practised in India is heavily tainted.(To cite two sources: The Story of Islamic Imperialism in India by Sita Ram Goel, published by the Voice of India; The Koran and the Kafir: All That An Infidel Needs to Know About the Koran)

The promotion of pseudo-history will be ultimately counterproductive. Fabricating history for the sake of a current cause, no matter how lofty its ideals, tempts the fates. To forget history will always be fateful; to forgive some of its frightful facts can be redemptive. Forgive -- but never forget -- history. A salient example of making sure that history is not forgotten is the contemporary German State's making it illegal to publish a reconstructed World War II history that attempts to negate or conceal the holocaust perpetrated by the Nazis on the Jews, Gypsies, and Poles.

As a secular humanist, however, one should make a distinction between an ideology and its adhering victims, especially those born into it. And, nonetheless, one should regard a typical liberal Indian Muslim to be as good a human being as any other Indian. Genuine secularism in India will finally emerge from the Hindus forgiveness of Islamic history in India, not from the pseudo-secularists' self-deluding denials and glossy cover-ups tacked onto the documented facts of that history.

For anyone interested in the contemporary 'secularist' Indian Stateand the politics of history, this is a must-read book.

Thanks!!

In the 1400 years in the name of Islam every religion has been suppressed and the people of all other religions have been put to enormous physical and mental tortures and difficulties.

One example is that fearing forced conversions, raping, and circumcision by the islamic thugs of Tipu Sultan, thousands of hindu families left karnataka and escaped to tamilnadu. Those families are still living in Tamilnadu and will explain their difficulties suffered by their great grand parents in the hands of muslim thugs. Even though Tipu destroyed all other temples and humiliated the hindus, he was considered to be very tolerant, as he did not destroy the Vishnu temple in Srirangapatnam. He did not destroy this because he used to consult the temple priests on astrology to know his future. Cruel and dirty fellows. This is the kind of peace and tolerance in Islam.

tags: Bhagwan Gidwani, Bombay Malayalee Samajam, converted to Islam, Coorg, Hindu Namboodri Brahmins, Hindu-Muslim amity, Mangalore, North Kerala, The Sword of Tipu Sultan, Tipu Sultan

Making a secular hero out of Tipu Sultan

by CJ: Nithin Sridhar

The International Conference on the Life and Achievements of Tipu Sultan concluded on 18th January. The agenda of the conference seemed to be the secularisation of Tipu's image. But history abounds with instances of his communal atrocities.
CJ: Nithin Sridhar Fri, Jan 22, 2010 12:26:22 IST

http://www.merinews.com/article/making-a-secular-hero-out-of-tipu-sultan/15795059.shtml

THE THREE day International Conference on the Life and Achievements of Tipu Sultan concluded in Mysore on Monday, January 18. It was organized by Directorate of Archaeology and Museums, Mysore.

Dr.B.Sheikh Ali, former Vice Chancellor of Mangalore and Goa Universities, speaking at the valedictory function said “Tipu Sultan practiced religious tolerance and was a revolutionary of his time.” Several people had the wrong notion that Tipu was not tolerant to other religions.

K.B.Ganapathy, Editor-in-Chief of the ‘Star of Mysore’, a local newspaper, while delivering his presidential address stated “There are misconceptions about Tipu Sultan among the masses that are under the impression that Sultan had initiated forcible religious conversion.”

He added “If Tipu had initiated forcible conversions; he could have had the entire Kodagu populace converted to Islam during his rule over the region.” Earlier, on January 16th, while inaugurating the conference B R Jayaramaraje Urs, Secretary, Department of Kannada and Culture had also described Tipu as a secular-minded ruler.

However, these remarks are far from the truth. The new generation of scholars points to the correspondence between Sringeri Shankaracharya Paramahamsa Parivrajakacharya and Tipu Sultan during 1791-92 and 1798, and argues that Tipu was an upholder of secularism and respected Hindu religious heads and places of worship.

However if one goes through the letters and edicts issued by Tipu Sultan to his principal military commanders, the governors of forts and provinces, their argument falls apart. The letter of January 19, 1790, sent to Budruz Zuman Khan by Tipu himself says: "Don't you know I have achieved a great victory recently in Malabar and over four lakh Hindus were converted to Islam? I am determined to march against that cursed 'Raman Nair' very soon (reference is to Rama Varma Raja of Travancore). Since I am overjoyed at the prospect of converting him and his subjects to Islam, I have happily abandoned the idea of going back to Srirangapatanam now."

Previously, a letter dated March 22, 1788, to Abdul Kadir reads: "Over 12,000 Hindus were 'honoured' with Islam. There were many Namboodiris (Brahmins) among them. This achievement should be widely publicised among the Hindus. There the local Hindus should be brought before you and then converted to Islam. No Namboodiri (Brahmin) should be spared.” A letter dated January 18, 1790, to Syed Abdul Dulai says: "With the grace of Prophet Muhammed and Allah, almost all Hindus in Calicut are converted to Islam. Only a few are still not converted on the borders of Cochin State. I am determined to convert them also very soon. I consider this as Jehad to achieve that object."

The above clearly, shows the ‘secularism’ of Tipu Sultan. Further, these historians try to portray Tipu as a nationalist as he fought against the British. But the renowned historian, Dr. I.M. Muthanna, says in his ‘Tipu Sultan X-Rayed’ that Tipu was a traitor as he invited the French to invade India. The letter, dated April 21, 1797, written by Tipu and classified as No. 4 in the Persian File of Records reads: "Since I manifested my friendship in writing to you, my messengers have arrived with the following intelligence which will not be displeasing to you..I inform these events in order to prove to you that it is now the moment for you to invade India. With little trouble we shall drive the British out of India. Rely on my friendship.”

This shows the expansionist agenda of Tipu Sultan. According to the official report of Col. Fullarton of the British forces stationed in Mangalore (During the siege 1783), Tipu's soldiers daily displayed the cut off heads of many innocent Brahmins within sight from the fort for Zamorin and his Hindu followers to see. It is asserted that the Zamorin rather than witness such atrocities and to avoid further killing of innocent Brahmins, chose to abandon the Palghat Fort." Further he states, "It was not only against the Brahmins who were thus put in a state of terror of forcible circumcision and conversion; but against all sections of Hindus.

In August, 1788, a Raja of the Kshatriya family of Parappanad and also Trichera Thiruppad, a chieftain of Nilamboor, and many other Hindu nobles who had been carried away earlier to Coimbatore by Tipu Sultan, were forcibly circumcised and forced to eat beef.” The world-famous Portuguese traveler, Fr. Barthoelomeo, writes in his book ‘Voyage to East Indies’: “Tipu was riding on an elephant behind which another army of 30,000 soldiers followed. Most of the men and women were hanged in Calicut; first mothers were hanged with their children tied to the necks of mothers. That barbarian Tipu Sultan tied the naked Christians and Hindus to the legs of elephants and made the elephants to move around till the bodies of the helpless victims were torn to pieces. Temples and churches were ordered to be burned down, desecrated and destroyed. Christian and Hindu women were forced to marry Mohammedans and similarly their men (after converting Hindu men into Islam) were forced to marry Mohammedan women. Those Christians, who refused to be honoured with Islam, were ordered to be killed by hanging immediately.”

The propaganda that Tipu Sultan was tolerant and fair-minded towards the Hindus in Mysore is also without any foundation, as explained in ‘History of Mysore’ written by Lewis Rice. According to Lewis Rice, during the rule of Tipu Sultan, only two Hindu temples inside the Sreerangapatanam Fort had daily pujas conducted while the assets of all other temples were confiscated.

Historian Gopal Rao says - "Muslims were exempted from all taxes. Even those who were converted to Islamic faith were also allowed the same concessions," The ‘Mysore Gazetteer’ says that the ravaging army of Tipu Sultan destroyed more than 8000 temples in South India.

Despite this overwhelming evidence to the contrary the myth of Tipu Sultan’s tolerance is being propagated in academic circles. It is high time to voice objection against the whitewashing of history by vested interests. We, the people of India should gather the courage to call a spade a spade.

Afghanistan

The invasion of Persia was completed five years after the death of the Islamic Prophet Muhammad, and all of the Persian territories came under Arab control, though pockets of tribal resistance continued for centuries in the Afghan territories. During the 7th century, Arab armies made their way into the region of Afghanistan from Khorasan with the new religion of Islam. At this point in time the area that is currently Afghanistan had a multi-religious population consisting of Buddhists, Zoroastrians, Hindus, Jews, and others.

Part of the region was ruled by Turkic Buddhist/Hindu dynasty called the Kabul Shahis since the 5th century AD. The Arabs were unable to succeed in converting the population of that area because of constant revolts from the mountain tribes. In 870, Ya'qub-i Laith Saffari, a local Persian ruler from the Saffarid dynasty of Zaranj, conquered most of the cities of present-day Afghanistan in the name of Islam.

Arab armies carrying the banner of Islam came out of the west to defeat the Sasanians in 642 AD and then they marched with confidence to the east. On the western periphery of the Afghan area the princes of Herat and Seistan gave way to rule by Arab governors but in the east, in the mountains, cities submitted only to rise in revolt and the hastily converted returned to their old beliefs once the armies passed. The harshness and avariciousness of Arab rule produced such unrest, however, that once the waning power of the Caliphate became apparent, native rulers once again established themselves independent. Among these the Saffarids of Seistan shone briefly in the Afghan area. The fanatic founder of this dynasty, the coppersmith’s apprentice Yaqub ibn Layth Saffari, came forth from his capital at Zaranj in 870 AD and marched through Bost, Kandahar, Ghazni, Kabul, Bamyan, Balkh and Herat, conquering in the name of Islam.

India's handling of Pakistan--- by Manish Maheshwari

India's handling of Pakistan reeks of the debilitating impact of Gandhism, the myths of which have been fed to generations of Indians and seeps into almost everything we do. 

When the fuzzy thinking of Nehruised Indian diplomacy mixes with a famous Gandhian myth ("de di hamein azaadi bina khadag bina dhaal, sabarmati ke sant tu ne kar diya kamaal"), what results is a dangerous concoction which goes like this: "if Gandhi could defeat the world's most powerful empire using his philosophy, why can't we manage our free nation according to the same philosophy?".

Now, when this concoction seeps into the behaviour of the sovereign nation of india, we end up with hugely suboptimal results. Let's use this framework to analyse the causes underlying india's non-response to Pakistani terrorism. All we have been doing after every Paki terror act is whining to the whole world that "india has been a victim of terrorism for the last 30 years" in the hope that the US will declare pakistan a terrorist state. 

Have you ever wondered why we are never able to summon the national will required to give the Pakis as good as we get? Thats Because we're subconsciously following Gandhism, viz., submit to the oppression of the aggressor, without making the slightest attempt to defend yourself, in the hope that (a) the oppressor's conscience will be ultimately pricked and he'll go awaly and/or (b) the world will be outraged and will stop the oppressor. The bad news which nobody seems to have broken to Gandhi and millions of his blind followers is that the Jihadi oppressor has no conscience and that the world's sense of moral outrage is buried deep under it's sense of self-interest.

So, thanks to Gandhi's irrationality, while 1000s of Indians die each year at the hands of Paki terrorists, the remaining 1.1 billion Indians, instead of taking some concrete action, merely chant Gandhi-dhun, patiently waiting like turkeys before Christmas, for the world to feel outraged.

Thanks to Gandhi's irrationality, while 1000s of Indians die each year at the hands of Paki terrorists, the remaining 1.1 billion Indians, instead of taking some concrete action, merely chant Gandhi-dhun, patiently waiting like turkeys before Christmas, for the world to feel outraged

Thanks to Gandhi's irrationality, while 1000s of Indians die each year at the hands of Paki terrorists, the remaining 1.1 billion Indians, instead of taking some concrete action, merely chant Gandhi-dhun, patiently waiting like turkeys before Christmas, for the world to feel outraged

India's handling of Pakistan--- by Manish Maheshwari


India's handling of Pakistan reeks of the debilitating impact of Gandhism, the myths of which have been fed to generations of Indians and seeps into almost everything we do. 

When the fuzzy thinking of Nehruised Indian diplomacy mixes with a famous Gandhian myth ("de di hamein azaadi bina khadag bina dhaal, sabarmati ke sant tu ne kar diya kamaal"), what results is a dangerous concoction which goes like this: "if Gandhi could defeat the world's most powerful empire using his philosophy, why can't we manage our free nation according to the same philosophy?".

Now, when this concoction seeps into the behaviour of the sovereign nation of india, we end up with hugely suboptimal results. Let's use this framework to analyse the causes underlying india's non-response to Pakistani terrorism. All we have been doing after every Paki terror act is whining to the whole world that "india has been a victim of terrorism for the last 30 years" in the hope that the US will declare pakistan a terrorist state. 

Have you ever wondered why we are never able to summon the national will required to give the Pakis as good as we get? Thats Because we're subconsciously following Gandhism, viz., submit to the oppression of the aggressor, without making the slightest attempt to defend yourself, in the hope that (a) the oppressor's conscience will be ultimately pricked and he'll go awaly and/or (b) the world will be outraged and will stop the oppressor. The bad news which nobody seems to have broken to Gandhi and millions of his blind followers is that the Jihadi oppressor has no conscience and that the world's sense of moral outrage is buried deep under it's sense of self-interest.

So, thanks to Gandhi's irrationality, while 1000s of Indians die each year at the hands of Paki terrorists, the remaining 1.1 billion Indians, instead of taking some concrete action, merely chant Gandhi-dhun, patiently waiting like turkeys before Christmas, for the world to feel outraged.

Young Pro-Pakistanis hardliners (Alam, Andrabi, Fuktoo), & Geelani run Kashmir intifada

Young Pro-Pakistanis hardliners (Alam, Andrabi, Fuktoo), & Geelani run Kashmir intifada

Filling the void in the absence of Hurriyat hawk Syed Ali Shah Geelani, are Masarat Alam and Dukhtaran-e-Millat’s Aasiya Andrabi.

The newer generation of Kashmiris are more hardline and more Pro-Pakistani

The Current intifada is totally led by the Pro-Pakistanis in Indian Occupied Kashmir

Srinagar: As curfew entered its 36th day today and two more protesters were killed in firing — taking the death toll of civilians to 24 since the protests began last month — there are the first signs of the emergence of a new and younger hardline leadership.

Filling the void in the absence of Hurriyat hawk Syed Ali Shah Geelani, are Masarat Alam and Dukhtaran-e-Millat’s Aasiya Andrabi. Both have gone underground and police have raided a dozen locations to track them.

* From his hideout, Alam, 38, issues “protest calendars” and recently sent a videoclip to the media in which he asks security forces to leave the Valley.

Sources said to avoid detection, Alam doesn’t use a cellphone. Ironically, police also blame Andrabi’s husband Ashiq Hussain Faktoo for instigating the protests from behind bars where he is serving a life term.

Alam, an “event manager” for the hardline faction led by Geelani, is a militant leader. In the early days of militancy in the ’90s, he was a top commander of a pro-Pakistan militant outfit Hezbollah, a group that later faded away.

A college graduate who went to Biscoe, the Valley’s leading missionary school, Alam was arrested in October 1990 but released after 13 months. He was arrested again in 1993 and was in jail for four years. From 1997 to 2007, Alam was arrested and released several times. In 2003, when the Hurriyat split, Alam joined the hawks led by Geelani. He rose to prominence in 2008 during the Amarnath land agitation. A resident of downtown Srinagar, Alam is said to have made inroads into Mirwaiz Umar Farooq’s stronghold in the city. He was arrested in September 2008 and booked under the Public Safety Act (PSA) but released in June this year.

* Ashiq Hussain Faktoo, 43, or Dr Mohammad Qasim, as he is popularly known, is serving a life-term for the killing of human rights activist H N Wanchoo.

After his Bachelor’s in Commerce in 1987, Qasim was introduced to militancy by Mohammad Abdullah Bangroo, one of the top commanders of the Hizbul Mujahideen. In 1990, he was appointed Hizbul spokesman. This association didn’t last long. A few months later, he, with two others, broke away to launch the Jamiat-ul-Mujahideen and Qasim was made its first spokesman.

In October 1990, Qasim married Syeda Aasiya Andrabi, chairperson of women’s separatist organization Dukhtran-i-Millat. In 1993, Qasim was arrested with his wife and their child. While Aasiya Andrabi and the child were released after 13 months, Qasim was booked under PSA and for the killing of activist H N Wanchoo.

In July 2001, the TADA court in Jammu acquitted Qasim in the Wanchoo case but in 2003, the Supreme Court sentenced him to life imprisonment. He has served his term, police said, and the J-K High Court has asked the state government to consider his release.

* Aasiya Andrabi, 47, founder and chairperson of Dukhtaran-e-Millat, isn’t new to hardline politics but has acquired an active profile during the current protests, actively issuing statements endorsing the protesters.

In 1985, she broke away from the Jamat-e-Islami and formed the Dukhtaran-e-Millat and in 1991 hit the headlines when she launched a campaign for amalgamation of Kashmir with Pakistan. She has been arrested several times under the PSA but is now underground. 

Alam & Andrabi the quiet hawks behind the Valley’s angry mobs

Roots of Kashmiri culture-Rajataringini/ Irani culture- Syed Ahmad (the grandfather of Ayotollah Khomeini) was a Kashmiri so was the famous Iranian Djalal Kashmiri

All who know Sanskrit will tell you that Kashmiri language even spoken by the Muslims today has a strong Rigvedic Sanskrit base. Kashmiris like most Indians are the purest Aryans due to their relative isolation. Many Tajiks have a strong resemblance to the Kashmiri

This is absolutely true. Kashmiri culture is immensely influenced by Irani culture. For Iran and Kashmiri both famous for their carpets (Qaleen Bafi'). Food such as Aab Goosht in Iran known as 'Ghoosht aaba' in Kashmir and also Shab Deeg is a famous Kashmiri dish. Allama Iqbal known as Iqbal Lahori in Iran used to call Kashmir ' Iran-e- Sagheer' i.e. little Iran.

Study the Rajataringini to know the real history of Kashmir till 12 Century A.D. Please do not manufacture history. Sikander was from the Shahmiri dynasty and the documented origins of this dynasty are totally different than what you mention. Besides they were not Turks. Earlier the mighty king of Kashmir Lalitaditya did a job on the Turks and Arabs..

The 12th Century A.D. excellent history of Kashmir informs us to what Kashmiris looked like. They had big eyes, sharp nose and were fair in colour. The fighting units like the Tantrins (soldiers in Sanskrit), etc., were very well built. Duels were not ucommon (to death) during many a time. For example the King Harsa of Kashmir as mentioned by the historian Kalhana was extremely handsome and very strong physically and mentally in his youth.

I do agree some enemies of Iran are trying to pitch Aryavarta against Iran. Indians respect Iranians and so do the Iranians India. However, remember Kashmir has been the head of Aryavarta and India today is a super power. Kashmir was also the headquarter of Sanskrit scholarship. Syed Ahmad (the grandfather of Ayotollah Khomeini) was a Kashmiri so was the famous Iranian Djalal Kashmiri.

An agenda exists (by foreigners) to pitch Aryan India against Aryan Iran. Both Rig Vedic Sanskrit and Avesthan Persian are very very similar. Modern Kashmiri does have some Arabic and little Central-Asian Persian (as the Mughals spoke Persian) but its base is very close only to Rig Vedic Sanskrit even now. Many of my Kashmiri Pandit friends speak Kashmiri (which I understand fully) which is very nearly the same as 14th century Kashmiri only similar to Rig Vedic Sanskrit. No Arabic in it.

Shah Mira came from not too far from the Kashmir Valley and found a job in the Valley. Some experts believe that he came from Udyana (modern Swat) and his ancestor had converted to Islam

Yusuf Shah Chak was a descendent of Pandu Chak (a Hindu), the Chaks were either native to the Valley or were from the periphery of the Valley. They were Aryans and not Turks. You are making great errors in the history of Kashmir. islam came very late to Kashmir and according to the famous Al-Biruni the kashmiri kings decimated the forces of Mohd. of Ghazni several times.

salam do you know even the northern areas is part of kashmir, but the modern maps of Pakistan put it as northern state of pakistan. Even though it is really part of the greater kashmir. Like gilgit hunza, neelam valley. 

According to legend, Jammu was founded by Raja Jamboolochan in the 14th century BCE. During one of his hunting campaigns he reached the Tawi River where he saw a goat and a lion drinking water at the same place. The king was impressed and decided to set up a town after his name, Jamboo. With the passage of time, the name was corrupted and became "Jammu".

Shams-ud-Din Shah Mir was a ruler of Kashmir and the founder of the Shah Miri dynasty named after him. Jonaraja, in his Rajatarangini mentioned him as Sahamera.

He (Shams-ud-Din Shah Mir) came from Swat (Tribal) territory on the borders of Afganistan, Rinchana from Ladakh, and Lankar Chak from Dard territory near Gilgit came to Kashmir, and played a notable role in subsequentive political history of the valley. All the three men were granted Jagirs by the King Rinchan for 3 years became the ruler of Kashmir, Shah Mir was the first rular of Swati dynasty, which had established in 1339.

Pure Kashmiris are long gone killed or living an unknown life in differnt parts of India & abroad. Now all you are gonna find is arab, turk & mongol mix hindus converted muslims in today's Kashmir. No Kashmiri in Kashmir & POK is true Kashmiri anymore. 


Why worry about language when culture, tradition & spirit is already long gone ? 

Sonamarg, which means ' meadow of gold '

Sonamarg, at an altitude of 3,000 metres above sea level, 87 km north-east of Srinagar. The drive to Sonamargh is though yet another spectacular facet of country side in Kashmir, this time in Sindh Valley. 

The Sindh Valley is the largest tributary of the valley of Kashmir. It is upwards of sixty miles long, and valley and deep rock-girt gorge to open grassy meadow land and village-dotted slopes. Sonamarg, which means ' meadow of gold ' has, as its backdrop, snowy mountains against a cerulean sky. the Sindth meanders along here and abounds with trout and mahseer, snow trout can be caught in the main river.

Ponies can be hired for the trip up to Thajiwas glacier a major attraction during the summer months. The climate of Sonamarg is very bracing; but the rainfall is frequent though not heavy, except for two or three days at a time in July and August with fine spell in between. 

From Sonamarg, trekking routes lead to the Himalayan lakes of Vishansar (4084 msl), Krishnasar (3810 msl) and Gangabal (3658 msl). Other lakes in the region are Gadsar, stocked with snowtrout and Satsar, glacier-fed and surrounded by banks of alpine flowers. 

A close by excursion is to Baltal, 15 km north of Sonamarg. This little valley lies at the foot of the Zojila, only a day's journey away from the sacred cave of Amarnath. Trekkers can also reach the starkly splendid roof-top of the world -- Leh, by crossing over the Zijila Pass .