In India bribes are an accepted norm
by Arvind Kejriwal
by Arvind Kejriwal
17 January 2011, 06:10 PM IST
http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/for-the-people/entry/in-india-bribes-are-an-accepted-norm?sortBy=RECOMMENDED&th=1#comments
I was arrested and subsequently released by NOIDA police on Saturday. The whole incident was quite bizarre. We had gathered outside Registrar’s office in Noida to protest against corruption in that office. Gaurav Bakshi, an NRI had been asked for a bribe in this office about two months back for some work. He refused to pay the bribe and recorded a video of the babus demanding bribe. This enraged the babus. They assaulted him and his father (a retired IAF officer) and their camera was snatched away. Someone present there clicked the pictures of assault. Gaurav filed a police complaint with those pictures (culprits are easily identifiable in those pictures). Gaurav was offered Rs 8000 by the NOIDA police who tried to persuade him not to file a police complaint. However, he persisted. Two months after the complaint was filed, the NOIDA police did not take any action.
Rather than give up, Gaurav collected all his friends and decided to protest. On Saturday, less than 50 people gathered outside Registrar’s office on the main road. All of us were shouting innocuous slogans – “Choosna band karo, rishwat lena band karo”, etc. We decided to take a round of the parking area and encourage people to stand up against corruption. However, the police stopped us. So, we stayed on the side of the main road. All of us demanded to know from the police, why were they shielding the corrupt, why they had not taken any action against corrupt people on Gaurav’s complaint? SHO present on the spot refused to reply.
At that time, one person came out of Registrar’s office and said that he a bribe of Rs 100 had demanded from him. Everyone asked the police officers present on the spot to immediately arrest the staff who had demanded bribe. But the police did not budge.
Suddenly, one of their senior police officers came, and without any provocation, on his orders, the police started assaulting people. We were slapped, thrashed and assaulted with batons. Gaurav was beaten up and put into a police van. Eight of us were “detained”. We were taken to a few police stations for the next few hours without being told why we were being transported around before we were finally presented before the city magistrate. At this point, we realised we had actually been “arrested”.
The city magistrate arrived and screamed at the police officer – “Muzrimon ko hathkadi kyon nahin daali?” Police officer replied – “Baahar bahut media wale khade hain.” The magistrate informed us that we had been arrested for violating public peace, for interfering with the work of government officials and for creating ruckus inside government building. We protested that we never entered any government building and we never met any government officer. The magistrate replied that it was for the police to investigate the allegations and the court would take a final decision. Some non-bailable sections were slapped against us. He ordered our arrest. We were bundled up in police vans and were sent to Dasna jail.
Midway, the police vans stopped. We were told that the vans had been asked to come back. “You will be released on bail,” one of the police officers told us, who was taking instructions on phone from his bosses. We said we will not apply for bail as we had not committed any crime. The policeman, perplexed, informed his seniors that these people don’t want bail. He was directed to still bring us back whether we wanted bail or not.
Back in magistrate’s office, we were released without bail. We learnt that the police did not know about our backgrounds when they arrested us. Once arrested, there was flood of enquiries from media and eminent citizens. And so, we were being released.
Isn’t it completely bizarre? Either we had done a crime or we had not! How could we be treated as hardened criminals just a few hours back, so much so that the magistrate had to order our handcuffing? And how could we be suddenly released and all charges against us dropped when they come to know who we were?
This means that the police can practically arrest anyone and slap any IPC section against him. The magistrate will blindly endorse arrest saying that the charges will be investigated later. How scary is that?
The magistrate met us after our release in his chamber. He warned us not to disrupt public peace in future. We told him in all humility – “We had not disrupted the peace of the public but had actually disrupted the peace of corrupt people and we will continue to do that even after our release. Don’t you find it strange that the police did not arrest those who had demanded bribe from Gaurav and those who had assaulted Gaurav and his father till now but we, who were fighting against corruption were arrested and produced before you immediately?” We politely told the magistrate that we will continue with our activities even after release. Still he released us.
Who do we blame for this incident? In my opinion, it is the system that is at fault. The system places so much power in the hands of a few individuals that they simply go mad with arrogance. They lick their seniors and kick the public and they are accountable to none. I wonder whether it was any different during the British times?
Many people say that we have sufficient laws in our country, just that they are not implemented properly. I completely disagree with them. I have studied many of the laws very carefully. We are still being governed by the same colonial laws which existed in British times. They have not been changed. Many of these laws need to be changed.
Economic growth and ‘future superpower’ status is all very good but that doesn’t guarantee dignity for every individual. We need new and contemporary laws for a new India and to push for these, a citizens’ movement has been initiated.
Thousands of people will assemble at Ramlila grounds at 1 pm on 30 January 2011 for a March Against Corruption – not only to protest against corruption, but to demand enactment of a strong anti-corruption law drafted by none other than Prashant Bhushan, Justice Santosh Hegde, National Campaign for People’s Right to Information, Kiran Bedi and others. Please visit www.indiaagainstcorruption.org to read the complete text of this law. Many eminent citizens will be present in this march - Aruna Roy, P V Rajagopal, Harsh Mander, Kiran Bedi, Prashant Bhushan, Shanti Bhushan, Devinder Sharma, Rev. Arch Bishop of Delhi, Anna Hazare, Madhu Kishwar, Sunita Godara etc.
Similar marches will take place simultaneously in many cities and towns across India on the same day. Please join the March Against Corruption wherever you are to demand effective anti-corruption systems! Please visit www.facebook.com/indiacor to know more details.
January 18,2011 at 04:47 AM IST
This incident is preposterous. We cannot be 'any' power forget super power. This is extremely shameful. The solution starts wid us, wid me I will participate in which form possible. I will request others to join. Please ensure this Story DOES NOT DIE. We need to ensure the guilty is not spared
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KD says:
January 18,2011 at 04:57 PM IST
Arvind, why have you shied away from naming the individuals? You had all the evidence, in the form of video footage, of your peaceful protest march. Therefore, the names of the officer in Reistrar's office, policeman (who offered Rs.8000 as bribe, SHO who rounded you up, Senior Police Officer who ordered assault and the City Magistrate should have been mentioned. Better lodge an FIR against all these persons and also file a case against them in the appropriate Court. ab jab panga liya hi hai to poori tarah se lado - jhapad khakar chup baithna kayarta hai. Also ask the media to repeatedly hihlight the incident not only in print but on TV channels also.
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KAUTILYA says:
January 18,2011 at 05:20 PM IST
This is what I have been sugesting since long. Not only some Govt officials, but to create a shining example START with UPA CHAIRPERSON (the mother of corruption), the Cabinet and ALL the top IAS/IFS/IPS Engineers etc. Besides these round up some IT Commissioners, Registrars of Property etc and LYNCH them in public and throw their bodies before HUNGRY DOGS to have their feast.
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Karthik says:
January 18,2011 at 12:11 PM IST
Personally, I think a few govt officials should be lynched without mercy. Sometimes, vigilante justice is the answer when nothing else works. That's the only way fear can be instilled in them. I request Mr.Bakshi to publicise the video that he has shot. Forget the defamation laws - they don't apply when public servants and public offices are involved. Just publicise! Let the neighbours and especially family and children of those corrupt officials know their true characters!
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Sachetak says:
January 20,2011 at 11:03 AM IST
ARVIND, you must have read PM's statement that the names of a/c holders (recd by the Govt from some nations) cannot be disclosed as it goes against agreements signed with different nations. THIS CLEARLY MEANS THAT SARDAR MANMOHAN SINGH WILY WOX - as he is- IS PLUGGING ALL LOOPHOLES TO ENSURE THAT THE NAME OF HIS BENEFACTOR i.e. SONIA&CO REMAINS WRAPPED UP IN COVER. This Sardar has no REGARD for his DUTY TO THE NATION, he is INTERESTED ONLY TO BE A FAITHFUL DOG to SONIA GANDHI who had put him (Sardar) in the PM's chair FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE. Please, consult your colleagues, who are with you in this fight against corruption, to IMMEDIATELY contact SHRI RAM JETHMALANI and request him to bring this angle before SUPREME COURT OF INDIA in its next hearing. This SARDAR and his GROUP of Scamsters need be EXPOSED and paraded NAKED before the PUBLIC.
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Gaurav says:
January 18,2011 at 01:17 PM IST
It is a well known fact that the police, specially the UP Police is a hotbed of corruption. They auction thanas routinely and the NOIDA thana is one of the most lucrative thanas in UP. Had it not been for known and eminent citizens, any common, regular, citizen or even a whole crowd would have been arrested and put behind bars with no one asking about them. This happens in NOIDA. Imagine what happens in villages like Dadri and just imagine what happens in Basti and Gorakhpur and Gonda. Not only should the entire police station be put under suspension but even the magistrate needs to be brought to justice for hte travesty
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Ashok Gupta says:
January 18,2011 at 03:44 PM IST
Why can't be City Magistrate be arrested for his Remarks " Muzrimo ko Hatkadi lagao", knowing well that there is Supreme court order against his statement.
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Nirbhay says:
January 18,2011 at 05:07 PM IST
Aryan, STUPID FELLOW, tell me which school has demanded RUPEES 12 LAKHS from you for admission, and name the restaurant where the SMALLEST PIZZA COSTS RUPEES 400? I am sure you are one of the SCUMS who is brought up with and is now thriving on cheap income. Give up your dirty habit else you will be dragged on the street, beaten up and left bleeding to served as feast for hungry dogs.
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Puneet Nayyar says:
January 18,2011 at 10:12 AM IST
This is the only way to fight corruption. Only common man can mend this corrupt system. Stop bribing and gradually things will come under control. It should be our social responsibility to expose the corrupt next to us. I am not angry with the ones who take bribe. I am angry with those who give. It's time to change our thinking. "Kaun jhamele mein pade"..."Kaun iss jhik jhik mein pade"... This message is to all those who feel that by giving bribe they are easing their lives. You can never run away by bribing and getting your work done easily. One day or the other this corruption will definitely bite you to your bone. Just wait and watch. It's time join hands against the corrupt system. Please expose these scavengers.
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Intikhab Siddiqui, Riyadh, KSA says:
January 19,2011 at 01:41 PM IST
I highly appreciate and support the Gaurav n Arvinds stance against corruption, but from time to time these types of protests come inti light n vanishes leaving the system at same stage.Why not the like minded people like Arvind make a political party and declearing its main and most important agenda be " Corruption free system".For a poltical party its easy to reform the system. We all have been carrying the burden of corrupt system since independece and hurting ourself. Now we all have been fed up and want get rid of it......May Allah bless we all and give courage the people like Arvind n Gaurav to continue strugle so we all get a corruption free society.
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Nirbhay says:
January 18,2011 at 10:54 PM IST
Once again I must say you are totally stupid. Ist pizza Hut and Dominos don't sell smallest pizza for 400 rupees. 2nd, no school in Delhi charges 12 lakhs fore admission. May be your children are blank like you and for getting them a degree you must have cheated the public and then inflated the bribe money to 12 lakhs to impress your wife. I must tell you, my children educated in reputed school and the best colleges in Delhi and I didn't spend a penny on donation what to say of bribe. So, don't talk cheap to justify your taking bribe. If yoyu are in that bracket of 12,000 - 20,000 why do you want to eat pizza? Follow the age old saying "tate paanv pasariye jeti lambi sor". Stupid fellow apne pajame mein raho usse bagar mat nikal.
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Shivendra S Chauhan says:
January 18,2011 at 02:51 PM IST
@ Vee Kay: Sanjay Chauhan - City Magistrate, NOIDA, Girish Jayant, SHO, Sec-24 PS, Noida was the first to slap Arvind Kejriwal and Vikas Chand Tripathi, CO, Noida Police ordered assault on peaceful protestors.
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Vee Kay says:
January 18,2011 at 12:24 PM IST
Why do not you publish the names of the magistrate and the police officers as well? They were taking the sides of the corrupt. Not only corrupt but those who take the corrupt's side should also be ashamed.
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Nirbhay says:
January 18,2011 at 11:03 PM IST
Stupid if you are middle class why do you engage a gardner? Then who said Govt schools are bad? Point is fools like you, who have been brouht up with filthy stinking money don't have brains. All your comments are nonsensical. I pity you and since you are one of the SCUMS who takes bribe to feed his family and lead a lavish life himself I detest you. I wish all persons like you to be thrown before hungry wolves.
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Ashok says:
January 17,2011 at 11:06 PM IST
This is very sad news and hurt every indian staying in any part of the world. Please let me know how NRIs contributes in India against curruption march which will held on 30th Jan 2011 becuse we are unable to join the march but every NRI wants to contibute this holy movement. JAI HIND!!!! Vande Matrum!!!!
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NR Rao says:
January 18,2011 at 12:10 PM IST
It was really an eye opener. Are all babus / government servants corrupt and heartless ? Who is leading it all ? Can we make sure that key leadership positions is occupied by men of impeccable integrity and not people like current CVC ?
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S.M.Singru says:
January 17,2011 at 06:51 PM IST
Arvindji, you say that our system of laws needs amendment. I feel that our basic approach towards God also needs a radical change. For us, God is an authority whom you first offer something, and then he grants you favours. The same logic confers legitimacy to offering of bribes to lesser mortals, too e.g. government authorities, for receiving favours. Doesn’t it?
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Anmol says:
January 19,2011 at 05:19 AM IST
@Aryan, U are missing the point. Most us want to share responsibility. But at the same time most of us are Helpless. Majority of ppl are not blaming 'ONE' person. In fact seldom is the case when a babu is prosecuted, most often common ppl suffer . In this blog itself see the preposterous attitude which babu had , they beat the innocent civilian !! . U have to get ur facts correct , the Last Pay commission gave a Very Significant increment to all government employees. This is never a limit to greed. This clearly points to the fact that a overhaul is necessary to remove this cancer. Few humble ideas. 1) Remove paper pushing positions . If a babu's job description is NOT adding value then remove that job . 2) Make systems accessible online. Only decision making can be a human process. Average Processing time should be displayed clearly. Decisions/updates should be posted online This is already done in many cases like passport and income tax . Expand it all Government services RTO and registrar are THE most important. Most of the Processes, List of all Documents required , Processing time, Escalation authority SHOULD be displayed clearly at the offices and the website of the department and updated promptly . Babu cannot say a document is missing if its not in the list of documents. We need to ensure Babu's are accountable. They are working for the salaries they are given Like All of us.
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Suresh Kumar says:
January 18,2011 at 07:59 PM IST
We Indians are constantly held hostages by all the organs of our democratic state.Anybody found questioning this is branded law breaker. I wonder if Pritba Patil or Manmohan singh (modern Viceroys) is bothered. Shame on my President and the Prime Minister.
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Naresh says:
January 18,2011 at 02:36 PM IST
Definitely, Magistrate must be taken to task and the SHO.. all these people have been making money at the cost of law & administration and have brought very bad repute to the image of India as a nation! I will be definitely be there on the Ramlila grounds and will pray for the day when such SHOs are punished in public.
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Prabhakar says:
January 18,2011 at 07:13 AM IST
Arvind Ji, whatever you have experienced may be bizzare but not uncommon. Most people do not want to go to police and reason are obiously very clear for everyone to see. Whom soever pays police, police protects. Unfortunately this system existed since long and still continue. Changing the laws may not be of much help as the persons implementing the laws will be same. Also can all the persons be like Mr. Gaurav? May be just 1 in a 1000. Protests may highlight the issues but the issues close as soon as protest finshes. I believe some NGO shall form legal help groups where in common man can go and report. From that point onwards, these groups with the help of media have to fight legal battle against the establishment. This has to be a long battle and not just adhoc reactions. Protests may be show our resentment but not likely to bring any result.
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Venkatesh says:
January 18,2011 at 09:48 AM IST
The police system is flawed totally. Police is ment to protect and maintain the freedom of people but on the contrary every one fears police in India despite knowing that they did nothing ( criminals never fear police in India they have good connections). But is the police that we should blame? We tell our children to do 'something' otherwise police will catch them. This is the general mentality the kid never knows why he will be caught. The reason is power in the hand of wrong people. You can never question a police in India. Talk to a policeman. The people who are assigned with the task to maintain law and order are not at all civilized, they are almost uneducated, they can't talk to you without saying bad words. Something is seriously wrong here and that needs to be addressed quickly.
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VS says:
January 17,2011 at 09:43 PM IST
Is there any way for the NRIs or not present due to some other reason to participate? would like to know and contribute. sincerely
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SA says:
January 18,2011 at 05:12 AM IST
Wow! You've actually done it unlike a lot of other articles where people just describe what happened. I agree the system is so entrenched with corrupt people(mostly).
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Anmol says:
January 18,2011 at 04:43 PM IST
@Aryan, U r point is correct that we need to identify the source of corruption. But U r talking about an 'easy' solution which all of us resort to. But I think u r incorrect in assuming that Money is the resource that ppl need. For better education, the government schools have to be improved that provides access to all. N we already have excellent examples like Kendriya Vidyala.. But improving the standard of all schools is though .. Similarly it can be argued for other areas like food supply chain (the strong middlemen lobby is the real culprit). Moreover Y arn't we looking at western democracies. Y they dont have corruption at grassroot level? Dont u think ppl in these countries also aspire to go up the ladder ??
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Sharma M C L says:
January 18,2011 at 11:46 AM IST
Arvind, you are Mangal Pandey of 21st Century India. It is high time that we kicked the corrupt babus and politicians. In this process many protesters will go to jail. But if media is supportive there is hardly anything that police can do. I guess struggle for freedom from corruption in this century would be far easier than 19th century since media is having that much reach and people are frustrated from head to toe
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Rakesh Katyal says:
January 18,2011 at 12:55 PM IST
Excellent job done. The judiciary, police, executive , the politician are all in it. But let us not give up. We the people can make a difference. And why our Rajdeeps, Arnabs and Barkhas are quiet. We know they are in it too. All for the 30th. Let us make it big success.
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Citizen says:
January 18,2011 at 05:11 AM IST
Salute your efforts! Very inspiring..
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Ashok Gupta says:
January 18,2011 at 03:45 PM IST
Arrest the city Magistrate first for his wrongful Orders? He appears to be a bigger culprit?
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Ajaz says:
January 20,2011 at 10:56 AM IST
great to know that NRIs are also interested in this movement.We want this movement to be spread all over the india and make our nation corruption free. Every indian can join his movement whether he in india or abroad. those who are abroad can join through their blogs, interests and comments. I appreciate your interest and want more NRIs to join this movement. I wish success to this movement. Thanks
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Kon says:
January 18,2011 at 11:33 AM IST
Kudos, Arvind ji! I don't live in Delhi, but I have informed my friends there about the 30/1 march. Hope people turn up in so high numbers that it becomes impossible for the govt. to ignore us.
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S Padmanabhan says:
January 17,2011 at 10:42 PM IST
This article should be sent to the SC who can take suo moto notice to the Police and Magistrate who appears to have asked why the accused were not hand cuffed.SC should identify who the senior officer who assualted them and punish him.
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Indian says:
January 18,2011 at 12:33 PM IST
Cops are the biggest goondas in town...they have no ethics...It is they who should be arrested for obstructing justice! People who say that they have no power are wrong. If willing, they can single-handedly take out corruption from our country...They just need to act!
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NKumar says:
January 18,2011 at 01:12 AM IST
This is a good start, people's movement, no poltics. It is not Advani,Jetley vs Manmoanji or Sonia. They are political gimmicks, please be sure to keep all these figures away and our best of wishes from Munich, Germany for this Wake- up call .
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arvind says:
January 18,2011 at 08:04 PM IST
Arvind, We all are so proud of you! This happens each day with the commoners in Noida, I think we should start with the arrest process of the city magistrate right way by filing a FIR for his mis deeds ( Assult and threatening)
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sid says:
January 17,2011 at 10:49 PM IST
Thanks Arvind, for trying to save India.
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Yesu says:
January 18,2011 at 03:16 PM IST
great!!! movement
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B.S.Chandra shekhara says:
January 17,2011 at 09:55 PM IST
Sad story! Even a small political party worker will not be treated like this by the police or govt officials. Both the officials and police have the support and sympathy of politicians. hence it is difficult to fight against corruption./bsc
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seshashayi says:
January 18,2011 at 09:16 AM IST
The incident is a true commentary about the pathetic state of affairs in our country.there is an urgent need for the govt to come up with concrete steps to root out corruption both at political and administrative levels to avoid extreme measures that may be resorted to by disillusioned citizens of the country.Having said this one should be appreciative of the fact that police cannot on there own initiative arrest corrupt officials as corruption has not been made a criminal offence.The proper course of action should have been to report to vigilance dept.Of course that dept may be in state of deep slumber.
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Vijay Singh Paliwal says:
January 18,2011 at 11:21 AM IST
We must fight all forms and types of corruption. Where an ordinary person'll get justice when Judiciary and Police is also corrupt ? We wants a "Big War" now,not an ordinary "Aandolan" to fight corruption.
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vijay says:
January 18,2011 at 02:45 PM IST
kudos to the writer and others for their stand against corruption...once all of us join this movement i am sure lot of changes can be done.
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Ujjwal Agrain says:
January 18,2011 at 03:08 PM IST
This event has come to me as shock. This is really sad that these hand full of people are collectively harassing the common...the voiceless. you were having a background then you were released, but if a common man like us are 'detained' then it could kill the entire carrier of a young citizen... shocking
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anurag says:
January 19,2011 at 03:32 PM IST
m gonna join dis rallYYY for sure....though i hv 2 bunk my colg classes bt i'll!!!!
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Prashant says:
January 17,2011 at 09:49 PM IST
Thanks for bringing this forth. I have recommended this blog's link to more than 400 people till now. We need a "culture" AND a government change, to bring forth some sense to this sad state that we're in.
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Sourav says:
January 19,2011 at 02:21 PM IST
It's never too late my friend. One of the reasons our system is in such a bad state is because of our pessimistic or nonchalant attitude towards everything. This is probably the only article where the actions are louder than words. lets just give it a try, who knows we might make our place a better one.
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Karthik says:
January 17,2011 at 09:27 PM IST
Dear Arvind I agree with you that the laws are outdated, but cannot see what the new laws are going to achieve The implementers of these laws are going to be the same set of people, so how is that going to be different, laws however carefully drafted can be interpreted in multiple methods What I feel is that we need to change is the mindset of the people. Corruption is accepted and even to a certain extent lauded by people, I know of many cases where a wife/ husband nudges husband/ wife and points out to the benefits of taking Bribes and speak about that proudly in their social circles This should change, people taking bribes should feel that they would be ostracised in their social circles if they take bribes What I therefore feel is a sustained campaign against corruption through various channels is required more than the law
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kuldip singh says:
January 18,2011 at 09:10 AM IST
PEOPLE join police,politics,ias,ips to make money nobody and nobody is willing to do service of the country even the same people who rule,they also join politics only for money and power,they are not here for service.so are the red tape ppl. we are country of corrupt people,thats all, only a KRANTIKARI neta can save country,need atleast 20years starting from now to be a corruption free country.only if there is no immunity to any body against any crime,here in india if police man kills people he got promoted,or some times sent to police lines,thats not justice,they shouuld not be immuned also.
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Amit Pai says:
January 18,2011 at 12:54 PM IST
Puneet, I fully agree with you. Corruption starts with us. Yesterday a traffic cop stopped me since I was talking on my cell phone while driving. It was very evident from his body language that he wanted a bribe. I however allowed him to confiscate my license and write the 'parchhi'. I know I will have to take leave in order to go to court and pay the fine but at least I am happy that I did not grease the cop's dirty hands.
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v.k. vohra says:
January 18,2011 at 12:41 PM IST
Sir, this is nothing new but eye opener. When the top brass is corrupt swallowing crores and get away with it, why blame a babu. Why you do not protest against Kalmadi & co., Raju, Ballari & Yaddurappa co. and so on? Are you scared. The recent past has shown as to how corrupt we are at the highest level. When the ministers are corrupt what do you expect from the samll officers. The methods applied by you will never work. The root is the ministers and goons. By God hang 2-3 of them and see the difference, every one falls in line. Remember Indira Gandhi when all the goons were in jail within 24 hours during the emergency. I was visiting India and travelled from Jabalpur to Mumbai. When I paid the TC for reservation, he returned me the balance including the coins. I told him it is OK he can keep it. But the reply came 'no sir I can not do it'. All the trains were on time/before time, babus were in their offices half an hour earlier than their office time. All this was possible since there was will to do it. Strong medicine is good some time but the cure is certain. Imagine our corrupt practices have perculated to our armed forces which is very dangerous. WE MUST WAKE UP BEFORE THE PEOPLE METE OUT THE JUSTICE TO THE CULPRITS.
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Vikram says:
January 18,2011 at 12:52 AM IST
Wow. Hats off to you sir for standing up against corruption. People should start secretly recording the demands for bribes and place them on major website as well as report to media.
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Qaari says:
January 17,2011 at 11:10 PM IST
As you have quoted British Raj time laws it reminds a poet in those days. Akbar Allahabadi wrote satirically: " Le ke rishwat phans gaya hai, De ke rishwat chhoot ja" meaning you are trapped by taking bribe, get released by giving bribe" . Ironically the same formula is in use. They take bribe because they know they will get released when caught by bribing.
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Aritra Gupta says:
January 17,2011 at 06:36 PM IST
This incident reveals the true state of law and order in this country.
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mshagv says:
January 18,2011 at 05:10 AM IST
If police and other law agencies comply the oath they took while joining the service, no wrong can be done. The police and other govt officials violate the oath generally and do not serve as proper govt servants.
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Aryan says:
January 18,2011 at 09:26 AM IST
Can anyone think what made that clerk to ask for bribe.. ?? what makes anyone to ask for bribe.. I am not supporting it.. but we should understand what are we fighting against... To get admission in a good school in delhi we got to pay bribe of more than 12 lakhs... Look at the sky-rocketing price of basic commodities... Is that Clerk wrong if he thinks that he/she has to give his kids a descent education.. HOW DO YOU GUYS THINK THAT HE CAN BREAK THE CHAIN OF “MIDDLE CLASS†and do something….. Everyone of us have a dream that we send our kids to good college.. have a descent education.. have a good life.. The smallest Pizza at a cheap restaurant like Dominos cost around 400 rupees. Which is some ones daily/monthly earning. I ask you ALL how much a person who earns a meager salary of 12-20,000 live up to the cost of living in places like delhi or be it any place where every other thing is costly.. and when your kids/spouse demands something which you cannot AFFORD but your neighbors CAN.. how does it feel... ?? also I want to ask each one of us.. that according to you at what all levels Corruption exist or does not exist.. Just think guys.. from Raja's Telecommunication to Raju's Satyam .. to DDA Scams to CWG scams… to the lowest level.. ask yourself.. How many of us buy pirated CD’s download pirated songs.. and many many other things which we do daily… which Auto wala in delhi drives his auto by meter.. why you have to pay EXTRA everytime at ALL the PLACEs to get every single work done.. which profession today is clean..?? we ALL our responsible for that… Is it wrong for a middle class person to dream big.. HAVING SAID ALL THIS I AM NOT SUPPORTING BRIBERY OR CORRUPTION .. but I want that we should ask ourselves .. instead of just pointing fingers at one guy will not solve the purpose..
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N Kumar says:
January 18,2011 at 01:18 AM IST
Arvindji Our Best Wishes for such a noble cause and this Peoples' movement.
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IAC says:
January 18,2011 at 01:46 PM IST
@ Vee Kay: Sanjay Chauhan - City Magistrate, NOIDA ordered handcuffing, Girish Kumar Jayant, SHO, Sec-24 PS, Noida was the first to slap Arvind Kejriwal and Vikas Chand Tripathi, CO, Noida Police ordered assault on peaceful protestors.
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Deepak says:
January 18,2011 at 07:46 PM IST
Hi Arvind I believe, the way you have suggested, it is high time that many of the laws are changed. There is no point in modifying the old laws. Like Business Process Re-engineering, or BPR in short, we need Governance Process Re-engineering or GPR. We need to start with blank paper and see what are the processes that are needed to provide good and transparent governance to the citizens of India. With the new realities of Information Technology and ubiquitous internet, we should be able to engineer SPECIFIC, MEASURABLE, ACHIEVABLE, RELEVANT and TIME phased (SMART) Key Process Indicators (KPIs)to keep track how the processes are functioning and continually improve. Trying to tinker the current laws leads us to getting stuck in legalese morass. I am sure wise and bright leaders like you would get all the support from like minded people in the country. Let us make it our 2020 vision.
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Ashok says:
January 20,2011 at 10:55 AM IST
Shame on useless ,good for nothing Babus for stooping so low in their lives. Are they forgetting that their kids will also grow in this same society. When son of Balram Jakhad can be killed and nothing happens ..remember everyone will pay the price. All people who were involved in this stupid case again Gaurav and Arvid should be brought to Justice. Corrupt officials are like parasites.
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sss says:
January 20,2011 at 04:55 PM IST
For that honesty to come from school days then please remove reservations and appoint meritorious teachers...
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S.N.Gupta says:
January 18,2011 at 06:03 PM IST
Action needs to be initiated against police officials for arrest withot any provocation.
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Amol Garje says:
January 17,2011 at 09:48 PM IST
shame on you noida police
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mshagv says:
January 18,2011 at 09:33 PM IST
Noida police exhibited its professional acumen by not solving a simple case of child Aarushi's murder. They should keep their face hidden.
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preeti says:
January 18,2011 at 03:03 PM IST
Dear Aryan, you explain well the reason of corruption. By telling this midle class story will do not make any difference. Actualy you want to say accept bribe whole heartedly and give justification to yourself that it is the need of the hour.Our children will not become a good human beings by our bribery.RISHVAT KA PAISA EK NA EK DIN RANG DIKHYAGA
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vm says:
January 19,2011 at 10:18 AM IST
I am NRI my self.Last time my neighbour build a big boundry wall up to 30 feet in the back side instead of six feet allowed in New Delhi.I took pictures of it went to report police,sent copies of photos to cheif minister,Mr Tejendra Khana and former supreme court chief justice just to aware them that there is no law and order in our country. So far after 4 years nothing has happened because i did not want to pay bribe.I still have copies of certified letters sent with photos.Country is in total chaos.
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Parsh T says:
January 19,2011 at 08:18 AM IST
We have system what we deserve because our system reflects what we average citizens are. No matter what laws we change the system will not improve unless common man on street behaves as a responsible citizen.
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Aryan says:
January 18,2011 at 08:26 PM IST
Sir .. I agree with the fact that corrupt people should be executed mercilessly but then according to you who all are corrupt..
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Raghuraj Bhargava says:
January 19,2011 at 01:01 AM IST
It paints a very scary picture.So you cannot protest peacefully.Hats off to a Free India. The police,corrupt babus and the equally arrogant and corrupt Magistrates are all responsible for this state of affairs where people are scared to approach police. I am ashamed of myself for living in such a society. Will the PM ever get a chance to read this story and will the people responsible for this be ever punished?????
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Nancy says:
January 20,2011 at 04:02 PM IST
Thanks for bringing this to the notice of the readers. Another incident to highlight that corruption in India has reached epidemic proportions.we need mass cleansing of the system.Who will be the saviour? God knows!!
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Gautam Sehgal says:
January 19,2011 at 02:09 AM IST
Power to you my friend, God bless you and all your companions who are trying to save our country. I wish I could be part of these protest!
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Kuldip Gupta says:
January 18,2011 at 08:33 PM IST
AND WE CALL IT A DEMOCRACY. Arvind a Magasasay Award winner can be bundled into a prison for doing what is the basic duty of a citizen.I know who had merely commented to a bureaucrat that he and the Bureaucrat did not share a state and subject relationship.It was a state and citizen relationship.He had to suffer the consequences for next five years.Now he too like me believes that in India it is state and subject.Like the commies said "Ye Azadi Jhoothi Hai".
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Som says:
January 22,2011 at 03:56 AM IST
Is 26 govts enough to control and run a country of 120 million? Thats how people crwal behind fewer officials and poilitos.Just by clicking a Govt Job,you become the destiny for millions..You set rules for us,we stand in Que for days ,wait for months for smallest work...Even after paying all govt dues,we have to pray for your mercy..We ask Why?Why should we be made to live like this?
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sk says:
January 18,2011 at 09:34 PM IST
I agree with Aryan. The root cause of corruption is different. Its the mixture of low salary and power with no accountability. its disaster in any country. We cannot rely on the integrity of a person alone. Hunger/greed always trumps integrity. I bet the people who are talking against it are also susceptible to this. They complain when corruption doesnt work for them. Else they are happy to bribe away. This needs a different kind of system which does not rely on human integrity and works even if the person is corrupt. We dont have to reinvent any wheel here. Just copy from the countries where it is working or even corporates where this isnt a problem. I have been thinking abt a suggestion for the govt for sometime. 1. The govt officials are given a promotion based on their performance and the pay should be decent. e.g. A traffic police officer is paid a lot lesser to eek out a living. thats why he takes bribes of Rs.20-50 for traffic infractions and the fines are Rs.100-500. So for the commuter it is cheaper to pay Rs.50 than Rs.500. If the officer were to make more money, he would not take cheaper bribes and the commuters wouldnt give Rs 1000 for a Rs 500 fine. There is no integrity required. Now thats a system. 2. If u have more liability, then the deterrence is more. So if u have good pay, you are less likely to commit petty crimes. 3. All govt. officials are transferred to a completely different location every 4 years. So that they dont have time to build very good relationships. The competition will take care of poor customer service.
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Samik says:
January 18,2011 at 01:37 PM IST
Hi Aryan, now days the people across the board of "Sarkari machinery" are earning well, at least after 6th pay commission, indeed they got better hike than in any privatized organization. So I would request you not to justify bribery, in the name of the cliche, that the "Sarkari Babu" is not earning well thats why he he is taking bribe. And also do you think the bribery classify people between haves and have nots? And that means only the Haves can buy the things by bribing, but then what about have nots? The state also provide the education at free of cost or at a very meager cost, but then why should we bribe the governing body of a private school in that illusion that the child is going to have a better education there. The 20% of our society is interested to buy the system by bribing so it became a norm, under which the rest 80% suffer, its we who created that monster. These corrupt people should be executed mercilessly, should be disgraced, and they should pay at least 3 times they took as bribe, and the state need to be stringent for sake of the rest 80%.
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P.Sasi says:
January 19,2011 at 12:40 PM IST
Corruption in our country is like a cancer disease which should be erradicated. Like minded people should unite and get rid of this devil from our Nation. In ancient days we were ruled by RajaRishis. They were Rulers and Sages. Now a days the corrupt rulers have taken over. We the people are electing our leaders to rule us. So, our main job is to vote for the honest and straight forward candidates. Once the head is honest the whole systems will be ok. Do not take and pay bribe. This oath should be taken by everyone and impliment at all levels. Slowly and steadly we can bring back a state of corruptionless in our country. Let us all unite against this shameful affairs prevailing in our country. Jai Hind.
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sampath.chari says:
January 19,2011 at 12:43 PM IST
I am afraid, it is too late. The system has gone into the stream so badly that every one thinks that corruption is the way of life.In 1960s only promo tees indulged in corruption. Now many of the IAS officers are involved.
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vgr says:
January 18,2011 at 01:46 AM IST
Sir, You say, they released you when they came to know who you were. What if it was some one who was a 'no man'. A common citizen? What would have been his case here sir. How could he fight?
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anjali g says:
January 18,2011 at 01:04 PM IST
You've sais it. The entire episode is bizarre and scary and there is no wonder then that an MLA was recently stabbed to death in Bihar . If the hands of the law are tied by powerful people then the common man will seek recourse by taking the law into his hands.
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Rajesh Vyas says:
January 19,2011 at 07:51 AM IST
A country whose politicians are corrupt to the core and a country where the political leadership is aiding and abetting corruption by turning a blind eye and deaf ear to corruption can expect no bettter from its people.
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harshi says:
January 20,2011 at 01:11 AM IST
President of India it appears is on leave or holidaying and PM of India is doing what President should be doing. Sonia ji is acting as PM but she and her Ministers are busy with thousands of crores made in various financial scams. No one has time for India. Take out time and join / support India against corruption actively. So our President, PM and his associated do wake or leave.
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salman says:
January 19,2011 at 01:48 AM IST
zara sa arrest ho gaye tho zameer jag gaya aapka,,, what about non judicial killings,, riots where police is hand in glove,,, kisi ko bhi utha kar terrorist keh do aur dal do jail mein,,, corruption is in govT DNA,,, i think it is an interview criteria for a govt job
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Sonika says:
January 18,2011 at 10:40 PM IST
This is a shocking and depressing incident! As a Delhi born-bred, I have known, firsthand, of the want of ethics and civility in public servants, bureaucrats (and I have to say this) average citizens. The way corruption is taken for granted and ethical behavior considered comical is disgusting to say the least. As a woman I have also been affected by the inability to go about daily activities while simply ensuring personal safety. I wonder how they would have (or did) treat women protesters in your group… I no longer live in the city, but fear for the loved ones I have there. Fear of all breeds of crooks --some have weapons, others political clout and yet others have nothing but are ensured of impunity thanks to ill-functioning systems. .. And incidents like these make one think if you’d ever see light at the end of the tunnel. Thanks for all your efforts, and I hope the proposed Lokpal bill gets traction with the government, like the RTI. It’s shocking to read about the loopholes in the current system of governance in the context of addressing corruption!
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Aryan says:
January 19,2011 at 03:36 PM IST
Once again you have shown your level and cheap and narrow minded mentality and definitely your upbringing... I have nothing else to say to people like you who are hippo-crates.. live in your limited small world.
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Gautam says:
January 18,2011 at 01:14 PM IST
most of the corruption we have is mostly due to the implementation of same old British Law's and procedures which where actually for enslaving public of India,not to provide good governance, it sad to see we call our country as Republic and still follow same law's made against us but not for US
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pankhi says:
January 18,2011 at 08:24 PM IST
shame on indian police n indian law..corruption is in full swing all ovr d country,istead of arresting d culprits,dey are arresting d innocents one..
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Aryan says:
January 18,2011 at 08:22 PM IST
Dear Mam, As I said I am not making an excuse for taking bribe... PLEASE TRY AND UNDERSTAND THE BIGGER PICTURE... understand the bigger.. will answer this question in a while.. got a meeting to catch in few mins.. thanks for your time. ok tell me this.. What will you do if you want to send your child to good schools who are costly and not the Government school where no person from upper middle class want to send his child... My gardner gets 1000 rupees per month.. he works at 6 places.. How do you expect him to full fill the need of his family... JUST THINK..... I AM NOT SUPPPORTING CORRUPTION... BUT PLEASE ITS NOT A PERSON.. ITS A DEVIL INSIDE ALL OF US...!!
http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/for-the-people/entry/in-india-bribes-are-an-accepted-norm?sortBy=RECOMMENDED&th=1#comments
I was arrested and subsequently released by NOIDA police on Saturday. The whole incident was quite bizarre. We had gathered outside Registrar’s office in Noida to protest against corruption in that office. Gaurav Bakshi, an NRI had been asked for a bribe in this office about two months back for some work. He refused to pay the bribe and recorded a video of the babus demanding bribe. This enraged the babus. They assaulted him and his father (a retired IAF officer) and their camera was snatched away. Someone present there clicked the pictures of assault. Gaurav filed a police complaint with those pictures (culprits are easily identifiable in those pictures). Gaurav was offered Rs 8000 by the NOIDA police who tried to persuade him not to file a police complaint. However, he persisted. Two months after the complaint was filed, the NOIDA police did not take any action.
Rather than give up, Gaurav collected all his friends and decided to protest. On Saturday, less than 50 people gathered outside Registrar’s office on the main road. All of us were shouting innocuous slogans – “Choosna band karo, rishwat lena band karo”, etc. We decided to take a round of the parking area and encourage people to stand up against corruption. However, the police stopped us. So, we stayed on the side of the main road. All of us demanded to know from the police, why were they shielding the corrupt, why they had not taken any action against corrupt people on Gaurav’s complaint? SHO present on the spot refused to reply.
At that time, one person came out of Registrar’s office and said that he a bribe of Rs 100 had demanded from him. Everyone asked the police officers present on the spot to immediately arrest the staff who had demanded bribe. But the police did not budge.
Suddenly, one of their senior police officers came, and without any provocation, on his orders, the police started assaulting people. We were slapped, thrashed and assaulted with batons. Gaurav was beaten up and put into a police van. Eight of us were “detained”. We were taken to a few police stations for the next few hours without being told why we were being transported around before we were finally presented before the city magistrate. At this point, we realised we had actually been “arrested”.
The city magistrate arrived and screamed at the police officer – “Muzrimon ko hathkadi kyon nahin daali?” Police officer replied – “Baahar bahut media wale khade hain.” The magistrate informed us that we had been arrested for violating public peace, for interfering with the work of government officials and for creating ruckus inside government building. We protested that we never entered any government building and we never met any government officer. The magistrate replied that it was for the police to investigate the allegations and the court would take a final decision. Some non-bailable sections were slapped against us. He ordered our arrest. We were bundled up in police vans and were sent to Dasna jail.
Midway, the police vans stopped. We were told that the vans had been asked to come back. “You will be released on bail,” one of the police officers told us, who was taking instructions on phone from his bosses. We said we will not apply for bail as we had not committed any crime. The policeman, perplexed, informed his seniors that these people don’t want bail. He was directed to still bring us back whether we wanted bail or not.
Back in magistrate’s office, we were released without bail. We learnt that the police did not know about our backgrounds when they arrested us. Once arrested, there was flood of enquiries from media and eminent citizens. And so, we were being released.
Isn’t it completely bizarre? Either we had done a crime or we had not! How could we be treated as hardened criminals just a few hours back, so much so that the magistrate had to order our handcuffing? And how could we be suddenly released and all charges against us dropped when they come to know who we were?
This means that the police can practically arrest anyone and slap any IPC section against him. The magistrate will blindly endorse arrest saying that the charges will be investigated later. How scary is that?
The magistrate met us after our release in his chamber. He warned us not to disrupt public peace in future. We told him in all humility – “We had not disrupted the peace of the public but had actually disrupted the peace of corrupt people and we will continue to do that even after our release. Don’t you find it strange that the police did not arrest those who had demanded bribe from Gaurav and those who had assaulted Gaurav and his father till now but we, who were fighting against corruption were arrested and produced before you immediately?” We politely told the magistrate that we will continue with our activities even after release. Still he released us.
Who do we blame for this incident? In my opinion, it is the system that is at fault. The system places so much power in the hands of a few individuals that they simply go mad with arrogance. They lick their seniors and kick the public and they are accountable to none. I wonder whether it was any different during the British times?
Many people say that we have sufficient laws in our country, just that they are not implemented properly. I completely disagree with them. I have studied many of the laws very carefully. We are still being governed by the same colonial laws which existed in British times. They have not been changed. Many of these laws need to be changed.
Economic growth and ‘future superpower’ status is all very good but that doesn’t guarantee dignity for every individual. We need new and contemporary laws for a new India and to push for these, a citizens’ movement has been initiated.
Thousands of people will assemble at Ramlila grounds at 1 pm on 30 January 2011 for a March Against Corruption – not only to protest against corruption, but to demand enactment of a strong anti-corruption law drafted by none other than Prashant Bhushan, Justice Santosh Hegde, National Campaign for People’s Right to Information, Kiran Bedi and others. Please visit www.indiaagainstcorruption.org to read the complete text of this law. Many eminent citizens will be present in this march - Aruna Roy, P V Rajagopal, Harsh Mander, Kiran Bedi, Prashant Bhushan, Shanti Bhushan, Devinder Sharma, Rev. Arch Bishop of Delhi, Anna Hazare, Madhu Kishwar, Sunita Godara etc.
Similar marches will take place simultaneously in many cities and towns across India on the same day. Please join the March Against Corruption wherever you are to demand effective anti-corruption systems! Please visit www.facebook.com/indiacor to know more details.
January 18,2011 at 04:47 AM IST
This incident is preposterous. We cannot be 'any' power forget super power. This is extremely shameful. The solution starts wid us, wid me I will participate in which form possible. I will request others to join. Please ensure this Story DOES NOT DIE. We need to ensure the guilty is not spared
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KD says:
January 18,2011 at 04:57 PM IST
Arvind, why have you shied away from naming the individuals? You had all the evidence, in the form of video footage, of your peaceful protest march. Therefore, the names of the officer in Reistrar's office, policeman (who offered Rs.8000 as bribe, SHO who rounded you up, Senior Police Officer who ordered assault and the City Magistrate should have been mentioned. Better lodge an FIR against all these persons and also file a case against them in the appropriate Court. ab jab panga liya hi hai to poori tarah se lado - jhapad khakar chup baithna kayarta hai. Also ask the media to repeatedly hihlight the incident not only in print but on TV channels also.
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KAUTILYA says:
January 18,2011 at 05:20 PM IST
This is what I have been sugesting since long. Not only some Govt officials, but to create a shining example START with UPA CHAIRPERSON (the mother of corruption), the Cabinet and ALL the top IAS/IFS/IPS Engineers etc. Besides these round up some IT Commissioners, Registrars of Property etc and LYNCH them in public and throw their bodies before HUNGRY DOGS to have their feast.
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Karthik says:
January 18,2011 at 12:11 PM IST
Personally, I think a few govt officials should be lynched without mercy. Sometimes, vigilante justice is the answer when nothing else works. That's the only way fear can be instilled in them. I request Mr.Bakshi to publicise the video that he has shot. Forget the defamation laws - they don't apply when public servants and public offices are involved. Just publicise! Let the neighbours and especially family and children of those corrupt officials know their true characters!
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Sachetak says:
January 20,2011 at 11:03 AM IST
ARVIND, you must have read PM's statement that the names of a/c holders (recd by the Govt from some nations) cannot be disclosed as it goes against agreements signed with different nations. THIS CLEARLY MEANS THAT SARDAR MANMOHAN SINGH WILY WOX - as he is- IS PLUGGING ALL LOOPHOLES TO ENSURE THAT THE NAME OF HIS BENEFACTOR i.e. SONIA&CO REMAINS WRAPPED UP IN COVER. This Sardar has no REGARD for his DUTY TO THE NATION, he is INTERESTED ONLY TO BE A FAITHFUL DOG to SONIA GANDHI who had put him (Sardar) in the PM's chair FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE. Please, consult your colleagues, who are with you in this fight against corruption, to IMMEDIATELY contact SHRI RAM JETHMALANI and request him to bring this angle before SUPREME COURT OF INDIA in its next hearing. This SARDAR and his GROUP of Scamsters need be EXPOSED and paraded NAKED before the PUBLIC.
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Gaurav says:
January 18,2011 at 01:17 PM IST
It is a well known fact that the police, specially the UP Police is a hotbed of corruption. They auction thanas routinely and the NOIDA thana is one of the most lucrative thanas in UP. Had it not been for known and eminent citizens, any common, regular, citizen or even a whole crowd would have been arrested and put behind bars with no one asking about them. This happens in NOIDA. Imagine what happens in villages like Dadri and just imagine what happens in Basti and Gorakhpur and Gonda. Not only should the entire police station be put under suspension but even the magistrate needs to be brought to justice for hte travesty
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Ashok Gupta says:
January 18,2011 at 03:44 PM IST
Why can't be City Magistrate be arrested for his Remarks " Muzrimo ko Hatkadi lagao", knowing well that there is Supreme court order against his statement.
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Nirbhay says:
January 18,2011 at 05:07 PM IST
Aryan, STUPID FELLOW, tell me which school has demanded RUPEES 12 LAKHS from you for admission, and name the restaurant where the SMALLEST PIZZA COSTS RUPEES 400? I am sure you are one of the SCUMS who is brought up with and is now thriving on cheap income. Give up your dirty habit else you will be dragged on the street, beaten up and left bleeding to served as feast for hungry dogs.
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Puneet Nayyar says:
January 18,2011 at 10:12 AM IST
This is the only way to fight corruption. Only common man can mend this corrupt system. Stop bribing and gradually things will come under control. It should be our social responsibility to expose the corrupt next to us. I am not angry with the ones who take bribe. I am angry with those who give. It's time to change our thinking. "Kaun jhamele mein pade"..."Kaun iss jhik jhik mein pade"... This message is to all those who feel that by giving bribe they are easing their lives. You can never run away by bribing and getting your work done easily. One day or the other this corruption will definitely bite you to your bone. Just wait and watch. It's time join hands against the corrupt system. Please expose these scavengers.
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Intikhab Siddiqui, Riyadh, KSA says:
January 19,2011 at 01:41 PM IST
I highly appreciate and support the Gaurav n Arvinds stance against corruption, but from time to time these types of protests come inti light n vanishes leaving the system at same stage.Why not the like minded people like Arvind make a political party and declearing its main and most important agenda be " Corruption free system".For a poltical party its easy to reform the system. We all have been carrying the burden of corrupt system since independece and hurting ourself. Now we all have been fed up and want get rid of it......May Allah bless we all and give courage the people like Arvind n Gaurav to continue strugle so we all get a corruption free society.
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Nirbhay says:
January 18,2011 at 10:54 PM IST
Once again I must say you are totally stupid. Ist pizza Hut and Dominos don't sell smallest pizza for 400 rupees. 2nd, no school in Delhi charges 12 lakhs fore admission. May be your children are blank like you and for getting them a degree you must have cheated the public and then inflated the bribe money to 12 lakhs to impress your wife. I must tell you, my children educated in reputed school and the best colleges in Delhi and I didn't spend a penny on donation what to say of bribe. So, don't talk cheap to justify your taking bribe. If yoyu are in that bracket of 12,000 - 20,000 why do you want to eat pizza? Follow the age old saying "tate paanv pasariye jeti lambi sor". Stupid fellow apne pajame mein raho usse bagar mat nikal.
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Shivendra S Chauhan says:
January 18,2011 at 02:51 PM IST
@ Vee Kay: Sanjay Chauhan - City Magistrate, NOIDA, Girish Jayant, SHO, Sec-24 PS, Noida was the first to slap Arvind Kejriwal and Vikas Chand Tripathi, CO, Noida Police ordered assault on peaceful protestors.
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Vee Kay says:
January 18,2011 at 12:24 PM IST
Why do not you publish the names of the magistrate and the police officers as well? They were taking the sides of the corrupt. Not only corrupt but those who take the corrupt's side should also be ashamed.
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Nirbhay says:
January 18,2011 at 11:03 PM IST
Stupid if you are middle class why do you engage a gardner? Then who said Govt schools are bad? Point is fools like you, who have been brouht up with filthy stinking money don't have brains. All your comments are nonsensical. I pity you and since you are one of the SCUMS who takes bribe to feed his family and lead a lavish life himself I detest you. I wish all persons like you to be thrown before hungry wolves.
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Ashok says:
January 17,2011 at 11:06 PM IST
This is very sad news and hurt every indian staying in any part of the world. Please let me know how NRIs contributes in India against curruption march which will held on 30th Jan 2011 becuse we are unable to join the march but every NRI wants to contibute this holy movement. JAI HIND!!!! Vande Matrum!!!!
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NR Rao says:
January 18,2011 at 12:10 PM IST
It was really an eye opener. Are all babus / government servants corrupt and heartless ? Who is leading it all ? Can we make sure that key leadership positions is occupied by men of impeccable integrity and not people like current CVC ?
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S.M.Singru says:
January 17,2011 at 06:51 PM IST
Arvindji, you say that our system of laws needs amendment. I feel that our basic approach towards God also needs a radical change. For us, God is an authority whom you first offer something, and then he grants you favours. The same logic confers legitimacy to offering of bribes to lesser mortals, too e.g. government authorities, for receiving favours. Doesn’t it?
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Anmol says:
January 19,2011 at 05:19 AM IST
@Aryan, U are missing the point. Most us want to share responsibility. But at the same time most of us are Helpless. Majority of ppl are not blaming 'ONE' person. In fact seldom is the case when a babu is prosecuted, most often common ppl suffer . In this blog itself see the preposterous attitude which babu had , they beat the innocent civilian !! . U have to get ur facts correct , the Last Pay commission gave a Very Significant increment to all government employees. This is never a limit to greed. This clearly points to the fact that a overhaul is necessary to remove this cancer. Few humble ideas. 1) Remove paper pushing positions . If a babu's job description is NOT adding value then remove that job . 2) Make systems accessible online. Only decision making can be a human process. Average Processing time should be displayed clearly. Decisions/updates should be posted online This is already done in many cases like passport and income tax . Expand it all Government services RTO and registrar are THE most important. Most of the Processes, List of all Documents required , Processing time, Escalation authority SHOULD be displayed clearly at the offices and the website of the department and updated promptly . Babu cannot say a document is missing if its not in the list of documents. We need to ensure Babu's are accountable. They are working for the salaries they are given Like All of us.
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Suresh Kumar says:
January 18,2011 at 07:59 PM IST
We Indians are constantly held hostages by all the organs of our democratic state.Anybody found questioning this is branded law breaker. I wonder if Pritba Patil or Manmohan singh (modern Viceroys) is bothered. Shame on my President and the Prime Minister.
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Naresh says:
January 18,2011 at 02:36 PM IST
Definitely, Magistrate must be taken to task and the SHO.. all these people have been making money at the cost of law & administration and have brought very bad repute to the image of India as a nation! I will be definitely be there on the Ramlila grounds and will pray for the day when such SHOs are punished in public.
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Prabhakar says:
January 18,2011 at 07:13 AM IST
Arvind Ji, whatever you have experienced may be bizzare but not uncommon. Most people do not want to go to police and reason are obiously very clear for everyone to see. Whom soever pays police, police protects. Unfortunately this system existed since long and still continue. Changing the laws may not be of much help as the persons implementing the laws will be same. Also can all the persons be like Mr. Gaurav? May be just 1 in a 1000. Protests may highlight the issues but the issues close as soon as protest finshes. I believe some NGO shall form legal help groups where in common man can go and report. From that point onwards, these groups with the help of media have to fight legal battle against the establishment. This has to be a long battle and not just adhoc reactions. Protests may be show our resentment but not likely to bring any result.
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Venkatesh says:
January 18,2011 at 09:48 AM IST
The police system is flawed totally. Police is ment to protect and maintain the freedom of people but on the contrary every one fears police in India despite knowing that they did nothing ( criminals never fear police in India they have good connections). But is the police that we should blame? We tell our children to do 'something' otherwise police will catch them. This is the general mentality the kid never knows why he will be caught. The reason is power in the hand of wrong people. You can never question a police in India. Talk to a policeman. The people who are assigned with the task to maintain law and order are not at all civilized, they are almost uneducated, they can't talk to you without saying bad words. Something is seriously wrong here and that needs to be addressed quickly.
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VS says:
January 17,2011 at 09:43 PM IST
Is there any way for the NRIs or not present due to some other reason to participate? would like to know and contribute. sincerely
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SA says:
January 18,2011 at 05:12 AM IST
Wow! You've actually done it unlike a lot of other articles where people just describe what happened. I agree the system is so entrenched with corrupt people(mostly).
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Anmol says:
January 18,2011 at 04:43 PM IST
@Aryan, U r point is correct that we need to identify the source of corruption. But U r talking about an 'easy' solution which all of us resort to. But I think u r incorrect in assuming that Money is the resource that ppl need. For better education, the government schools have to be improved that provides access to all. N we already have excellent examples like Kendriya Vidyala.. But improving the standard of all schools is though .. Similarly it can be argued for other areas like food supply chain (the strong middlemen lobby is the real culprit). Moreover Y arn't we looking at western democracies. Y they dont have corruption at grassroot level? Dont u think ppl in these countries also aspire to go up the ladder ??
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Sharma M C L says:
January 18,2011 at 11:46 AM IST
Arvind, you are Mangal Pandey of 21st Century India. It is high time that we kicked the corrupt babus and politicians. In this process many protesters will go to jail. But if media is supportive there is hardly anything that police can do. I guess struggle for freedom from corruption in this century would be far easier than 19th century since media is having that much reach and people are frustrated from head to toe
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Rakesh Katyal says:
January 18,2011 at 12:55 PM IST
Excellent job done. The judiciary, police, executive , the politician are all in it. But let us not give up. We the people can make a difference. And why our Rajdeeps, Arnabs and Barkhas are quiet. We know they are in it too. All for the 30th. Let us make it big success.
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Citizen says:
January 18,2011 at 05:11 AM IST
Salute your efforts! Very inspiring..
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Ashok Gupta says:
January 18,2011 at 03:45 PM IST
Arrest the city Magistrate first for his wrongful Orders? He appears to be a bigger culprit?
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Ajaz says:
January 20,2011 at 10:56 AM IST
great to know that NRIs are also interested in this movement.We want this movement to be spread all over the india and make our nation corruption free. Every indian can join his movement whether he in india or abroad. those who are abroad can join through their blogs, interests and comments. I appreciate your interest and want more NRIs to join this movement. I wish success to this movement. Thanks
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Kon says:
January 18,2011 at 11:33 AM IST
Kudos, Arvind ji! I don't live in Delhi, but I have informed my friends there about the 30/1 march. Hope people turn up in so high numbers that it becomes impossible for the govt. to ignore us.
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S Padmanabhan says:
January 17,2011 at 10:42 PM IST
This article should be sent to the SC who can take suo moto notice to the Police and Magistrate who appears to have asked why the accused were not hand cuffed.SC should identify who the senior officer who assualted them and punish him.
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Indian says:
January 18,2011 at 12:33 PM IST
Cops are the biggest goondas in town...they have no ethics...It is they who should be arrested for obstructing justice! People who say that they have no power are wrong. If willing, they can single-handedly take out corruption from our country...They just need to act!
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NKumar says:
January 18,2011 at 01:12 AM IST
This is a good start, people's movement, no poltics. It is not Advani,Jetley vs Manmoanji or Sonia. They are political gimmicks, please be sure to keep all these figures away and our best of wishes from Munich, Germany for this Wake- up call .
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arvind says:
January 18,2011 at 08:04 PM IST
Arvind, We all are so proud of you! This happens each day with the commoners in Noida, I think we should start with the arrest process of the city magistrate right way by filing a FIR for his mis deeds ( Assult and threatening)
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sid says:
January 17,2011 at 10:49 PM IST
Thanks Arvind, for trying to save India.
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Yesu says:
January 18,2011 at 03:16 PM IST
great!!! movement
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B.S.Chandra shekhara says:
January 17,2011 at 09:55 PM IST
Sad story! Even a small political party worker will not be treated like this by the police or govt officials. Both the officials and police have the support and sympathy of politicians. hence it is difficult to fight against corruption./bsc
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seshashayi says:
January 18,2011 at 09:16 AM IST
The incident is a true commentary about the pathetic state of affairs in our country.there is an urgent need for the govt to come up with concrete steps to root out corruption both at political and administrative levels to avoid extreme measures that may be resorted to by disillusioned citizens of the country.Having said this one should be appreciative of the fact that police cannot on there own initiative arrest corrupt officials as corruption has not been made a criminal offence.The proper course of action should have been to report to vigilance dept.Of course that dept may be in state of deep slumber.
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Vijay Singh Paliwal says:
January 18,2011 at 11:21 AM IST
We must fight all forms and types of corruption. Where an ordinary person'll get justice when Judiciary and Police is also corrupt ? We wants a "Big War" now,not an ordinary "Aandolan" to fight corruption.
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vijay says:
January 18,2011 at 02:45 PM IST
kudos to the writer and others for their stand against corruption...once all of us join this movement i am sure lot of changes can be done.
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Ujjwal Agrain says:
January 18,2011 at 03:08 PM IST
This event has come to me as shock. This is really sad that these hand full of people are collectively harassing the common...the voiceless. you were having a background then you were released, but if a common man like us are 'detained' then it could kill the entire carrier of a young citizen... shocking
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anurag says:
January 19,2011 at 03:32 PM IST
m gonna join dis rallYYY for sure....though i hv 2 bunk my colg classes bt i'll!!!!
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Prashant says:
January 17,2011 at 09:49 PM IST
Thanks for bringing this forth. I have recommended this blog's link to more than 400 people till now. We need a "culture" AND a government change, to bring forth some sense to this sad state that we're in.
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Sourav says:
January 19,2011 at 02:21 PM IST
It's never too late my friend. One of the reasons our system is in such a bad state is because of our pessimistic or nonchalant attitude towards everything. This is probably the only article where the actions are louder than words. lets just give it a try, who knows we might make our place a better one.
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Karthik says:
January 17,2011 at 09:27 PM IST
Dear Arvind I agree with you that the laws are outdated, but cannot see what the new laws are going to achieve The implementers of these laws are going to be the same set of people, so how is that going to be different, laws however carefully drafted can be interpreted in multiple methods What I feel is that we need to change is the mindset of the people. Corruption is accepted and even to a certain extent lauded by people, I know of many cases where a wife/ husband nudges husband/ wife and points out to the benefits of taking Bribes and speak about that proudly in their social circles This should change, people taking bribes should feel that they would be ostracised in their social circles if they take bribes What I therefore feel is a sustained campaign against corruption through various channels is required more than the law
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kuldip singh says:
January 18,2011 at 09:10 AM IST
PEOPLE join police,politics,ias,ips to make money nobody and nobody is willing to do service of the country even the same people who rule,they also join politics only for money and power,they are not here for service.so are the red tape ppl. we are country of corrupt people,thats all, only a KRANTIKARI neta can save country,need atleast 20years starting from now to be a corruption free country.only if there is no immunity to any body against any crime,here in india if police man kills people he got promoted,or some times sent to police lines,thats not justice,they shouuld not be immuned also.
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Amit Pai says:
January 18,2011 at 12:54 PM IST
Puneet, I fully agree with you. Corruption starts with us. Yesterday a traffic cop stopped me since I was talking on my cell phone while driving. It was very evident from his body language that he wanted a bribe. I however allowed him to confiscate my license and write the 'parchhi'. I know I will have to take leave in order to go to court and pay the fine but at least I am happy that I did not grease the cop's dirty hands.
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v.k. vohra says:
January 18,2011 at 12:41 PM IST
Sir, this is nothing new but eye opener. When the top brass is corrupt swallowing crores and get away with it, why blame a babu. Why you do not protest against Kalmadi & co., Raju, Ballari & Yaddurappa co. and so on? Are you scared. The recent past has shown as to how corrupt we are at the highest level. When the ministers are corrupt what do you expect from the samll officers. The methods applied by you will never work. The root is the ministers and goons. By God hang 2-3 of them and see the difference, every one falls in line. Remember Indira Gandhi when all the goons were in jail within 24 hours during the emergency. I was visiting India and travelled from Jabalpur to Mumbai. When I paid the TC for reservation, he returned me the balance including the coins. I told him it is OK he can keep it. But the reply came 'no sir I can not do it'. All the trains were on time/before time, babus were in their offices half an hour earlier than their office time. All this was possible since there was will to do it. Strong medicine is good some time but the cure is certain. Imagine our corrupt practices have perculated to our armed forces which is very dangerous. WE MUST WAKE UP BEFORE THE PEOPLE METE OUT THE JUSTICE TO THE CULPRITS.
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Vikram says:
January 18,2011 at 12:52 AM IST
Wow. Hats off to you sir for standing up against corruption. People should start secretly recording the demands for bribes and place them on major website as well as report to media.
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Qaari says:
January 17,2011 at 11:10 PM IST
As you have quoted British Raj time laws it reminds a poet in those days. Akbar Allahabadi wrote satirically: " Le ke rishwat phans gaya hai, De ke rishwat chhoot ja" meaning you are trapped by taking bribe, get released by giving bribe" . Ironically the same formula is in use. They take bribe because they know they will get released when caught by bribing.
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Aritra Gupta says:
January 17,2011 at 06:36 PM IST
This incident reveals the true state of law and order in this country.
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mshagv says:
January 18,2011 at 05:10 AM IST
If police and other law agencies comply the oath they took while joining the service, no wrong can be done. The police and other govt officials violate the oath generally and do not serve as proper govt servants.
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Aryan says:
January 18,2011 at 09:26 AM IST
Can anyone think what made that clerk to ask for bribe.. ?? what makes anyone to ask for bribe.. I am not supporting it.. but we should understand what are we fighting against... To get admission in a good school in delhi we got to pay bribe of more than 12 lakhs... Look at the sky-rocketing price of basic commodities... Is that Clerk wrong if he thinks that he/she has to give his kids a descent education.. HOW DO YOU GUYS THINK THAT HE CAN BREAK THE CHAIN OF “MIDDLE CLASS†and do something….. Everyone of us have a dream that we send our kids to good college.. have a descent education.. have a good life.. The smallest Pizza at a cheap restaurant like Dominos cost around 400 rupees. Which is some ones daily/monthly earning. I ask you ALL how much a person who earns a meager salary of 12-20,000 live up to the cost of living in places like delhi or be it any place where every other thing is costly.. and when your kids/spouse demands something which you cannot AFFORD but your neighbors CAN.. how does it feel... ?? also I want to ask each one of us.. that according to you at what all levels Corruption exist or does not exist.. Just think guys.. from Raja's Telecommunication to Raju's Satyam .. to DDA Scams to CWG scams… to the lowest level.. ask yourself.. How many of us buy pirated CD’s download pirated songs.. and many many other things which we do daily… which Auto wala in delhi drives his auto by meter.. why you have to pay EXTRA everytime at ALL the PLACEs to get every single work done.. which profession today is clean..?? we ALL our responsible for that… Is it wrong for a middle class person to dream big.. HAVING SAID ALL THIS I AM NOT SUPPORTING BRIBERY OR CORRUPTION .. but I want that we should ask ourselves .. instead of just pointing fingers at one guy will not solve the purpose..
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N Kumar says:
January 18,2011 at 01:18 AM IST
Arvindji Our Best Wishes for such a noble cause and this Peoples' movement.
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IAC says:
January 18,2011 at 01:46 PM IST
@ Vee Kay: Sanjay Chauhan - City Magistrate, NOIDA ordered handcuffing, Girish Kumar Jayant, SHO, Sec-24 PS, Noida was the first to slap Arvind Kejriwal and Vikas Chand Tripathi, CO, Noida Police ordered assault on peaceful protestors.
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Deepak says:
January 18,2011 at 07:46 PM IST
Hi Arvind I believe, the way you have suggested, it is high time that many of the laws are changed. There is no point in modifying the old laws. Like Business Process Re-engineering, or BPR in short, we need Governance Process Re-engineering or GPR. We need to start with blank paper and see what are the processes that are needed to provide good and transparent governance to the citizens of India. With the new realities of Information Technology and ubiquitous internet, we should be able to engineer SPECIFIC, MEASURABLE, ACHIEVABLE, RELEVANT and TIME phased (SMART) Key Process Indicators (KPIs)to keep track how the processes are functioning and continually improve. Trying to tinker the current laws leads us to getting stuck in legalese morass. I am sure wise and bright leaders like you would get all the support from like minded people in the country. Let us make it our 2020 vision.
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Ashok says:
January 20,2011 at 10:55 AM IST
Shame on useless ,good for nothing Babus for stooping so low in their lives. Are they forgetting that their kids will also grow in this same society. When son of Balram Jakhad can be killed and nothing happens ..remember everyone will pay the price. All people who were involved in this stupid case again Gaurav and Arvid should be brought to Justice. Corrupt officials are like parasites.
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sss says:
January 20,2011 at 04:55 PM IST
For that honesty to come from school days then please remove reservations and appoint meritorious teachers...
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S.N.Gupta says:
January 18,2011 at 06:03 PM IST
Action needs to be initiated against police officials for arrest withot any provocation.
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Amol Garje says:
January 17,2011 at 09:48 PM IST
shame on you noida police
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mshagv says:
January 18,2011 at 09:33 PM IST
Noida police exhibited its professional acumen by not solving a simple case of child Aarushi's murder. They should keep their face hidden.
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preeti says:
January 18,2011 at 03:03 PM IST
Dear Aryan, you explain well the reason of corruption. By telling this midle class story will do not make any difference. Actualy you want to say accept bribe whole heartedly and give justification to yourself that it is the need of the hour.Our children will not become a good human beings by our bribery.RISHVAT KA PAISA EK NA EK DIN RANG DIKHYAGA
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vm says:
January 19,2011 at 10:18 AM IST
I am NRI my self.Last time my neighbour build a big boundry wall up to 30 feet in the back side instead of six feet allowed in New Delhi.I took pictures of it went to report police,sent copies of photos to cheif minister,Mr Tejendra Khana and former supreme court chief justice just to aware them that there is no law and order in our country. So far after 4 years nothing has happened because i did not want to pay bribe.I still have copies of certified letters sent with photos.Country is in total chaos.
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Parsh T says:
January 19,2011 at 08:18 AM IST
We have system what we deserve because our system reflects what we average citizens are. No matter what laws we change the system will not improve unless common man on street behaves as a responsible citizen.
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Aryan says:
January 18,2011 at 08:26 PM IST
Sir .. I agree with the fact that corrupt people should be executed mercilessly but then according to you who all are corrupt..
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Raghuraj Bhargava says:
January 19,2011 at 01:01 AM IST
It paints a very scary picture.So you cannot protest peacefully.Hats off to a Free India. The police,corrupt babus and the equally arrogant and corrupt Magistrates are all responsible for this state of affairs where people are scared to approach police. I am ashamed of myself for living in such a society. Will the PM ever get a chance to read this story and will the people responsible for this be ever punished?????
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Nancy says:
January 20,2011 at 04:02 PM IST
Thanks for bringing this to the notice of the readers. Another incident to highlight that corruption in India has reached epidemic proportions.we need mass cleansing of the system.Who will be the saviour? God knows!!
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Gautam Sehgal says:
January 19,2011 at 02:09 AM IST
Power to you my friend, God bless you and all your companions who are trying to save our country. I wish I could be part of these protest!
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Kuldip Gupta says:
January 18,2011 at 08:33 PM IST
AND WE CALL IT A DEMOCRACY. Arvind a Magasasay Award winner can be bundled into a prison for doing what is the basic duty of a citizen.I know who had merely commented to a bureaucrat that he and the Bureaucrat did not share a state and subject relationship.It was a state and citizen relationship.He had to suffer the consequences for next five years.Now he too like me believes that in India it is state and subject.Like the commies said "Ye Azadi Jhoothi Hai".
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Som says:
January 22,2011 at 03:56 AM IST
Is 26 govts enough to control and run a country of 120 million? Thats how people crwal behind fewer officials and poilitos.Just by clicking a Govt Job,you become the destiny for millions..You set rules for us,we stand in Que for days ,wait for months for smallest work...Even after paying all govt dues,we have to pray for your mercy..We ask Why?Why should we be made to live like this?
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sk says:
January 18,2011 at 09:34 PM IST
I agree with Aryan. The root cause of corruption is different. Its the mixture of low salary and power with no accountability. its disaster in any country. We cannot rely on the integrity of a person alone. Hunger/greed always trumps integrity. I bet the people who are talking against it are also susceptible to this. They complain when corruption doesnt work for them. Else they are happy to bribe away. This needs a different kind of system which does not rely on human integrity and works even if the person is corrupt. We dont have to reinvent any wheel here. Just copy from the countries where it is working or even corporates where this isnt a problem. I have been thinking abt a suggestion for the govt for sometime. 1. The govt officials are given a promotion based on their performance and the pay should be decent. e.g. A traffic police officer is paid a lot lesser to eek out a living. thats why he takes bribes of Rs.20-50 for traffic infractions and the fines are Rs.100-500. So for the commuter it is cheaper to pay Rs.50 than Rs.500. If the officer were to make more money, he would not take cheaper bribes and the commuters wouldnt give Rs 1000 for a Rs 500 fine. There is no integrity required. Now thats a system. 2. If u have more liability, then the deterrence is more. So if u have good pay, you are less likely to commit petty crimes. 3. All govt. officials are transferred to a completely different location every 4 years. So that they dont have time to build very good relationships. The competition will take care of poor customer service.
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Samik says:
January 18,2011 at 01:37 PM IST
Hi Aryan, now days the people across the board of "Sarkari machinery" are earning well, at least after 6th pay commission, indeed they got better hike than in any privatized organization. So I would request you not to justify bribery, in the name of the cliche, that the "Sarkari Babu" is not earning well thats why he he is taking bribe. And also do you think the bribery classify people between haves and have nots? And that means only the Haves can buy the things by bribing, but then what about have nots? The state also provide the education at free of cost or at a very meager cost, but then why should we bribe the governing body of a private school in that illusion that the child is going to have a better education there. The 20% of our society is interested to buy the system by bribing so it became a norm, under which the rest 80% suffer, its we who created that monster. These corrupt people should be executed mercilessly, should be disgraced, and they should pay at least 3 times they took as bribe, and the state need to be stringent for sake of the rest 80%.
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P.Sasi says:
January 19,2011 at 12:40 PM IST
Corruption in our country is like a cancer disease which should be erradicated. Like minded people should unite and get rid of this devil from our Nation. In ancient days we were ruled by RajaRishis. They were Rulers and Sages. Now a days the corrupt rulers have taken over. We the people are electing our leaders to rule us. So, our main job is to vote for the honest and straight forward candidates. Once the head is honest the whole systems will be ok. Do not take and pay bribe. This oath should be taken by everyone and impliment at all levels. Slowly and steadly we can bring back a state of corruptionless in our country. Let us all unite against this shameful affairs prevailing in our country. Jai Hind.
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sampath.chari says:
January 19,2011 at 12:43 PM IST
I am afraid, it is too late. The system has gone into the stream so badly that every one thinks that corruption is the way of life.In 1960s only promo tees indulged in corruption. Now many of the IAS officers are involved.
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vgr says:
January 18,2011 at 01:46 AM IST
Sir, You say, they released you when they came to know who you were. What if it was some one who was a 'no man'. A common citizen? What would have been his case here sir. How could he fight?
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anjali g says:
January 18,2011 at 01:04 PM IST
You've sais it. The entire episode is bizarre and scary and there is no wonder then that an MLA was recently stabbed to death in Bihar . If the hands of the law are tied by powerful people then the common man will seek recourse by taking the law into his hands.
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Rajesh Vyas says:
January 19,2011 at 07:51 AM IST
A country whose politicians are corrupt to the core and a country where the political leadership is aiding and abetting corruption by turning a blind eye and deaf ear to corruption can expect no bettter from its people.
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harshi says:
January 20,2011 at 01:11 AM IST
President of India it appears is on leave or holidaying and PM of India is doing what President should be doing. Sonia ji is acting as PM but she and her Ministers are busy with thousands of crores made in various financial scams. No one has time for India. Take out time and join / support India against corruption actively. So our President, PM and his associated do wake or leave.
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salman says:
January 19,2011 at 01:48 AM IST
zara sa arrest ho gaye tho zameer jag gaya aapka,,, what about non judicial killings,, riots where police is hand in glove,,, kisi ko bhi utha kar terrorist keh do aur dal do jail mein,,, corruption is in govT DNA,,, i think it is an interview criteria for a govt job
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Sonika says:
January 18,2011 at 10:40 PM IST
This is a shocking and depressing incident! As a Delhi born-bred, I have known, firsthand, of the want of ethics and civility in public servants, bureaucrats (and I have to say this) average citizens. The way corruption is taken for granted and ethical behavior considered comical is disgusting to say the least. As a woman I have also been affected by the inability to go about daily activities while simply ensuring personal safety. I wonder how they would have (or did) treat women protesters in your group… I no longer live in the city, but fear for the loved ones I have there. Fear of all breeds of crooks --some have weapons, others political clout and yet others have nothing but are ensured of impunity thanks to ill-functioning systems. .. And incidents like these make one think if you’d ever see light at the end of the tunnel. Thanks for all your efforts, and I hope the proposed Lokpal bill gets traction with the government, like the RTI. It’s shocking to read about the loopholes in the current system of governance in the context of addressing corruption!
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Aryan says:
January 19,2011 at 03:36 PM IST
Once again you have shown your level and cheap and narrow minded mentality and definitely your upbringing... I have nothing else to say to people like you who are hippo-crates.. live in your limited small world.
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Gautam says:
January 18,2011 at 01:14 PM IST
most of the corruption we have is mostly due to the implementation of same old British Law's and procedures which where actually for enslaving public of India,not to provide good governance, it sad to see we call our country as Republic and still follow same law's made against us but not for US
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pankhi says:
January 18,2011 at 08:24 PM IST
shame on indian police n indian law..corruption is in full swing all ovr d country,istead of arresting d culprits,dey are arresting d innocents one..
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Aryan says:
January 18,2011 at 08:22 PM IST
Dear Mam, As I said I am not making an excuse for taking bribe... PLEASE TRY AND UNDERSTAND THE BIGGER PICTURE... understand the bigger.. will answer this question in a while.. got a meeting to catch in few mins.. thanks for your time. ok tell me this.. What will you do if you want to send your child to good schools who are costly and not the Government school where no person from upper middle class want to send his child... My gardner gets 1000 rupees per month.. he works at 6 places.. How do you expect him to full fill the need of his family... JUST THINK..... I AM NOT SUPPPORTING CORRUPTION... BUT PLEASE ITS NOT A PERSON.. ITS A DEVIL INSIDE ALL OF US...!!
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