When 30000 turn up spontaneously against corruption, politicians better worry
by Rajesh Kalra
by Rajesh Kalra
31 January 2011, 01:09 PM IST
http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/randomaccess/entry/when-30k-turn-up-spontaneously-against-corruption-politicians-better-worry#comments
I was at the march against corruption rally organised by Arvind Kejriwal’s ‘India Against Corruption’ organisation in central Delhi yesterday. It was a delightful winter noon with a gentle sun and a soothing breeze. The real icing on the cake, however, was the unbelievable crowd that had shown up on a Sunday afternoon.
In a country where increasingly we see crowds gather with great difficulty unless it’s a cricket match. Where almost every politician, save a few, has to necessarily orchestrate paid crowds involving buses to ferry them and inducing them with food, liquor, even money, for their rallies and still find few takers, the number of 30 thousand spontaneous crowd was heartening.
And what a congregation it was! School children, college students; I saw a few with IIT Delhi jackets, doctors, lawyers, armymen, housewives, simple villagers from districts around Delhi, nuns, sisters, pundits, gurus, were all there. Even the Delhi police constables on duty were helpful with one of them remarking to me – sab achche kaam ke liye aaye hain (All have come for a good cause).
I have little doubt that this spontaneous show of strength would have made the political class uneasy, more so with them witnessing the events unfolding in Tunisia and Egypt. While it may be too early to predict a similar uprising in India, for I think we are intrinsically far more stable and also patient, but my gut feel is that the way things are moving in this nation, the political class certainly cannot take things for granted any more.
The way people lapped up what was being spoken there was surprising, and at one level scary too. The no-holds barred speeches by the likes of Prashant and Shanti Bhushan, Ram Jethmalani, Medha Patkar, religious gurus and a bevy of others was something not heard at a public rally in a long time. Medha Patkar, especially, was devastating in her observations about the industrialists-political nexus.
The clear articulation of how most of our so called anti-corruption laws and bodies are useless, by the father and son activist lawyers duo of Prashant and Shanti Bhushan, too had everyone asking for more. That was followed by Arvind Kejriwal demonstrating how even the new probity bill being contemplated - Lok Pal - will be nothing but an attempt to pull wool over everybody’s eyes. I had discussed this in an earlier post (Don’t let up against corruption). Basically, all these so called bodies are made defunct by the babu-politician (and perhaps industrial lobbies) nexus even before they take wing by making them toothless. All of them have mere recommendatory powers and no more. Little wonder, therefore, that all their observations are treated by the powers that be with supreme contempt.
But as I said, if the mood in the gathering is any indication, all those who have been getting away with the loot of the nation, riding on the current toothless mechanism in place, need to worry.
The people of this nation are fed up of the platitudes being served by the rulers and administrators day in and day out. They are aware of the loot and plunder that is going on in the name of the poor. The Swiss bank account information is being actively pursued by an almost activist Supreme Court, as is the information on several other issues of public interest. We are all witness to growing anarchy. None can forget the burning alive of a senior government officer in Manmad by the oil mafia that indulged in fuel adulteration. The list of such brazen acts is growing at an alarming pace. Not reacting or taking it easy is no longer an option.
As a speaker at the rally extolled the gathering yesterday, we should now tell all political parties that we need genuine moves to curtail corruption and bring this country to some order. We need to ask them if they support the new probity law that empowers action against the looters. Only if we have unequivocal support from them that they are with us in this in right earnest can they seek our votes, else we will look elsewhere.
The message has to go across to as many as possible. On the Internet , there is a Facebook page called India Against Corruption (http://www.facebook.com/IndiACor?ref=ts&v=wall). We should all go there and register our protest and speak our mind. Let there be pressure points all around, so that those who have always escaped unscathed in their loot of the nation so far are made aware that their days are numbered.
Here is to a corruption free India.
Ankur Mehta says:
January 31,2011 at 06:11 PM IST
Just Make Narendra Modi the Prime Minister and see the Difference. We require Leaders and that too with a Vision. Ther is nobody on the National Scene with these Qualities except NarendraBhai. The Corrupt will hang themselves once he is the PM.
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KKK says:
January 31,2011 at 05:00 PM IST
30000 people in Delhi is just a beginning. Politicians will worry only when their seats are threatened. Now if 300000 people were to march in Rae Bareilly -- then indeed, Sonia Gandhi might worry!
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Sachetak says:
January 31,2011 at 05:48 PM IST
First of all, accept my congrats for your relentless efforts and contribution to make a grand success of the rally. I expected TV channels to cover the speeches live or it atleast give it prominent coverage in the news bulletins. Rajesh, there is still time, please take it up with the 'news channels' to telecast the gist of individual speech, by the respected speakers, one by one in its daily prime time bulletins. And this should continue for a week so that more and more viewers get to know of the 'fight against corruption' and participate in it.
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KD says:
January 31,2011 at 06:17 PM IST
The Bureaucracts have built such a strong fortress around them that nailing them has become almost impossible. The earlier Govts, including that of NDA, tried to demolish their cover but in vain. Theirs is the strongest UNION and unless they are leashed and tamed the 'loot' of nation cannot be stopped. The politician-businessmen nexus has also developed with the complicity of bureaucrats. It need be checked and contained forthwith. Tunisia and Egypt are burning and the iron is red hot here too. It is, therefore, the right time to strike the final blow. This CORRUPT Govt must go and the next one be given a stern warning that people will not tolerate wrong doing any more.
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Sheeba says:
January 31,2011 at 01:22 PM IST
Wish this gathering helps to the cause.. Small things can go a long way.. Hope this proves so in this case.. Only then will the other cities follow.. and Yes. u have my support.. n people will surely stand up.. We just need leaders to lead us. trust me!
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John says:
January 31,2011 at 06:47 PM IST
Our top leaders are shameless and they are ignoring public sentiments about corruption.The day is not far when there will an Inqualab Zindabad like Egypt and Tunisia.
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R.L.Raina says:
January 31,2011 at 01:37 PM IST
dear Sheeba.Our PM has dented his image by sheltering corrupt people.He and law knowing Home minister lied to Supreme Court in the appointment case of tainted CVC.Kapil Sibal telecom minister tried to belie the observations of CAG thus coming in support of A.RAJA who is responsible for making the government to suffer a loss of revenue of rupees 176000 crores. FM tried to bluff the nation for taking the steps tto recover black money parked in foreigh banks.Where are we heading to.
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Suresh Thakur says:
January 31,2011 at 09:05 PM IST
Dear Rajesh , We need to fight for a RE INDEPENDENCE , Independence from the corrupt , inept , nexus of politicians , bureaucrats and business houses with vested interests . this battle for re independence has to be fought by us INDIANS without any political support , without any leader , it has to be spontaneous by one and all . We have to be ready to sacrifice , in terms of delayed issuance of legitimate licences, permissions, without paying any bribes , we may have to endure delays , harassment and if we do some thing wrong by mistake be ready to face the consequences legally rather than wriggle out by paying bribes . The fight todays is more daunting and hard because we are now fighting our own masters , the BROWN SAHIBS , the ENEMY WITHIN . We have to fight this for our future generations so that we do not leave the Gen next a legacy of bankrupt country whose wealth is lying some where else while we struggle and suffer . LET EVERY ONE RISE AND ANNOUNCE ENOUGH IS ENOUGH . WE WANT THINGS DONE RIGHT WAY AND DEMAND A CORRUPT FREE GOVERNMENT AND SOCIETY . WE DESERVE IT AND WE DEMAND IT FOR EACH AND EVERY CITIZEN OF THIS ONCE GREAT COUNTRY .
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Gope Lalwani says:
February 01,2011 at 04:15 AM IST
Walk like an Egyptians! Egypt has set the precedence. Can Indians follow the suit and throw the corrupt Dynasty out?
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Sachetak says:
January 31,2011 at 07:58 PM IST
Rajesh, if there is a video of the coverage please have it put on the facebook and the 'india against corruption' website so that those who missed the rally they may also view and hear the speeches of the dignitaries.
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p c chopra says:
February 01,2011 at 07:10 AM IST
1.This is a wonderful beginning. 2.Next step is to popularise it and spread the message till atleast 5 million responses. 3.After that a PIL in the Supreame Court. 4.Election Commission to debar citizens with criminal and corruption cases from standing for elections. 5.Peaceful rallies in Delhi and state capitals.
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Rajnish says:
February 01,2011 at 11:06 AM IST
Can we do a Egypt and Tunisia in India. Rajesh, do you think this is step 1 to a civil revolution against the corruption in India. One small country like Tunisia doing a "Jasmine revolution" can start a Arab rising.. why not the March organised by Mr. kejriwal can do it. Please dont let this die.
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Amit Deshpande says:
January 31,2011 at 02:45 PM IST
Excellent piece Rajesh. Hope prevails. Indians are intrinsically averse to ostentatious display of ugly ill-gotten wealth. This is a first step towards an impending social revolution that will herald changes in the right direction.
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RV says:
February 01,2011 at 09:39 AM IST
Has anyone done the calculation. Assuming there is ONE TRILLION DOLLARS of ILLEGAL MONEY stashed away in foreign banks is brought back every citizen of INDIA from a newborn to the oldest can get ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS EACH {based on population of ONE BILLION}. Our economy will skyrocket and the benefits will be immeasurable.
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ck says:
February 01,2011 at 11:55 AM IST
The fact that such a important event appears as a blog and not a news item shows where the media's interests lie, not that it undermines the efforts, but they seem to be taking the normal common man as a given, its time to show them their place!
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LetsLOL says:
January 31,2011 at 03:39 PM IST
I have been following TOI's vote and many places where I wanted to comment on this subject(Corruption)I did comment in my own way. Though I am away from the country but I learn the magnitude of crime and corruption is increasing day by day. Off hand I know Ghaziabad is becoming the rape capital or rape city of India. Many cities are famous for political rowdyism so on so forth. I am aware that drugs flow freely amongst the pseudo Modernists in the name of broad mindedness. This morning it struck me that the best way to rein in corruption would be to bring more transparency in administration of essential services followed by strong Accountability. We have many rich people now in India even if each one of them takes one essential service and provides them IT backing we should be up and running and anti corruption campaign in our own way. Assume an essential service like power supply.Example of a breakdown at one of the homes the complaint can be lodged online and the officer in charge can see what is the expected lag time and let the consumer know it and after the lag time things are not fixed then the consumer can go a step further.Transparency be awarded to Journalists and Media who can give out aging reports and criticize the official or ask an explanation. We run support services for the whole world why can't these be provided in India for Indians. Then I recommended a Lok Ayukta type of board to be headed by well known personalities of cities, towns with authority to prosecute or charge a corrupt person. The committee I recommended should keep changing every 3 years and not a single member in this committee or panel should have any political affiliation nor should have had directly or indirectly be involved in any crime be it petty as one can think it to be. Many readers would think my comments are far fetched but I am an optimist and I know if the grass root levels are controlled then the upper levels will bow down. We should pursue this Passionately
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The guy in the green sweater says:
January 31,2011 at 04:45 PM IST
I remember seeing you at the meet, you asked me how I found out about the event... I got involved in this mission only weeks ago but it has driven me enough to stay awake till late after midnight every day, creating stuff for these people... I believe that India can change, and I guess everybody else who was there believed too, that's why they were there. Thanks for your vote against corruption
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spsingh says:
February 01,2011 at 04:49 PM IST
It is a very good begining.Let us unite and fight against corruption.But..but,I have seen Sampurn Kranti movement also, and how it got cornered by corrupt and opportunists.I wish this will not go the same way. Further assembly of certain persons on the dais may send out a mixed signal.While cleaning system is necessary and some changes in political as well as administrative setups are required,we must hit at the root of corruption.Rightly or wrongly, corruption has gradually been accepted as a normal phenomenon in society. Fighting this attitude is also to be attempted. We need a social and moral cleaning and here people like Ramdev Baba will be greatly helpful.
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S.M.Singru says:
January 31,2011 at 07:33 PM IST
Rajesh, your blog was indeed very inspiring & my mind went back to the post Emergency days of 1977 when we used to get goose pimples on hearing the speeches of some of the victorious Janata Party functionaries. But I am afraid we cannot read much in what has been achieved so far in the fight against corruption. Indeed, the Babu-Neta-Lala nexus is very well entrenched. And the basic fallacy is to believe that replacing one political party (or coalition) by another is going to make an important change. The only way to battle corruption is to modify existing constitutional arrangements & institutions and to set up new ones. For example, the present system of electoral arrangement & institutions will have to be changed to make them difficult to be corrupted. Similarly, the working of police & the investigative agencies needs to be drastically altered to eliminate (or severely restrict) its control by the political executive, retaining only its answerability to the judiciary. Currently, not much is being done to initiate thinking on these ideas & rather naively we seem to conclude that the large crowds at anti-corruption rallies is a very positive sign. This is dangerous because eventually, when these large crowds get disenchanted with the stubborn status quo, the feeling of confusion & disorientation may well propel the people to follow a clever demagogue who will promise them the moon in return for a de-democratisation of the political system. And this death of democracy would mean a long coma for many human values.
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Rakesh Katyal says:
January 31,2011 at 06:09 PM IST
It was an excellent beginning. I could not go but my daughter was there with her college mates. People are really fed up of this non governance. The best part of the movement is that it has no political affiliations. I hope we can keep it like that. There is no power like people power. Let us now consolidate the gains of 30 Jan gathering . When do we meet next ?
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Asamanja GHOSE says:
January 31,2011 at 06:11 PM IST
Thirty thousand or three lakhs, I am not at all optimistic. As long as we have a CIA-controlled government in Delhi running the country, more and more Rajas, Chavans and Kalmadis, will be there to ruin us. So the first thing to do is to get rid of all the CIA-agents we have in the government. Mind you, that is no easy task, because Obama is real smart SOB!!!
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Puneet Nayyar says:
January 31,2011 at 05:15 PM IST
I am really glad that we made a good beginning. More than what I actually expected. I truly believe that India can change. It might take more effort on our part. I am always game!
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Manish Singh says:
January 31,2011 at 09:52 PM IST
It couldnt have been better than this, I was involved with this movement for sometime now. Got couple of friends attend it as well but not enough. I hope in future all my friends will come out of the comfort zone and fight for something which is impacting all of us. We just need to rise and show people power. It wasnt just a movement, it was the movement we need. When people rise corrupt will fall.
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Rajeev says:
February 01,2011 at 01:15 PM IST
This is really a great development. However, Rajeshji, I am sorry to see that none of the media outlets, including yours, is covering the massive campaign on Corruption by Swami Ramdev. I am sure that even you would be aware of the fact that he is holding anti-corruption rallies in remote parts of the country every day (telecasted on Aashta Channel) where atleast 1 Lac people attend the same. The current mood against corruption is all due to Swami Ramdev's relentelss efforts which has now awakened a nation. As such, I am unhappy and puzzled that our media is blacking out the Bharat Swabhimaan Andolan against corruption completely.
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ashok says:
February 01,2011 at 10:15 AM IST
The mother of corruption is the President of the Congress Party and her family members. It is like a suspense movie, wherein the criminal acts like the protector of the public but in the end, his identity is revealed. Simoilarly all the dynastic politicians, like the DMK should be exposed thoroughly and should be thrown out of politics for ever.
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Prakash Nayak says:
February 01,2011 at 11:09 AM IST
Now is the right time.White faced liars like Pranab Mukherjee,who shamlessly teel lies on the Swiss agrrement vis a vis black money in Swiss Banks,and others should be made to face trial and not let off without punishment.With Tunisia,Egypt in the back-ground,our politicians will feel the ground shaking under their feet.Now is the right time - immediately.
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RANJAN SRIVASTAVA says:
February 01,2011 at 08:14 AM IST
V P Singh used Bofors corruption charges to topple Congress government and brought along with him instability, Mandal, Lalu, Mulayam and finally return of Congress under P V Narsimha rao. The problem is not limited to corruption at the top but it expands to morally defunct society. At present, there is no leadership available in India who can take the whole country on his/her shoulders towards a corruption and crime free India. Evolution of a credible leader and credible team is not on horizon. Society is not able to distinguish between right and wrong. The fix for wrought in society is much bigger challenge for Indians. The movement against corruption needs to have short term and long-term agenda to engage the entire country. The leadership of movement need to 1. Keep the movement going for many years to come 2. Ignite search for viable alternative to the defunct political system 3. Provide alternatives to the existing framework for governance by the people, current framework of governance is not delivering any succor to the vast majority of population, which is deprived of the basic infrastructure for employment, education and health 4. Provide an alternative electoral process, which reduces the use of money power in the elections and tracks the use of money in the elections 5. Engage media to voice the concerns of the poorest of the poor, if required create alternate print and electronic media platforms for debate on the issues faced by the nation 6. Promote morality by example in all the fields with the next generation and youth. This 6 point program with suitable timeline can be the core agenda for the movement and its successful implementation will transform the country to sustain its economic success and provide inclusive growth to every Indian.
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Asamanja GHOSE says:
January 31,2011 at 07:15 PM IST
I recommend Nitish Kumar instead. He has been successful in turning the "underdog" state of Bihar, the land of coolies, once upon a time not so long ago, into a respectable, almost corruption-free state, with the highest rate of economic growth in the country. Keep it up Nitish, I am proud of you. You are an example for India. Navin Pattnaik was also very good to start with, but the mining scam did him in. So, be careful Nitish.
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Ashish Kumar says:
February 01,2011 at 12:15 AM IST
What is being achieved is to go for simple and winnable action points that can make structural differences to fighting corruption. Corruption in India is hydra headed and the politicians and bureaucrats responsible for governance are themselves neck deep in corruption. Expecting them to take steps to change the constitution to eliminate corruption is impossible. Hence the only way is to apply pressure directly from various forums and media, that unless this Jan Lokpal bill is passed, India would go the Egypt/Tunisia way. The revolution in Tunisia was actually started by a small vendor who sold bananas.
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alok sen says:
January 31,2011 at 08:33 PM IST
The slow but determined push by the late Ayatollah put an end to the Despotic Rule of the Shah of Iran who started his rule in a "Sincere"mode.Events showed how he turned a terror with the advice from his hand picked cronies.Pre.Mubarrak is facing the same now(he appointed his son to be next President but he fled the country on the first signs. We do have similarities here with MANY scams,attrocities against children,women,tribals etc coming out as a cascading effect.We have a P.M who DID NOT use his "SPECIAL RELATION WITH THE U.S.PRESIDENT TO PROTECT OUR STUDENTS FROM THE BARBARIC (going to the Borgia period in Italy)pRACTICE OF MAKING THEM WEAR HORRIBLE LEG COLLARS. People are watching and they are BEGINING TO REALISE WHAT THEY CAN DO COLLECTIVELY.ONLY THING REQUIRED IS Mahatma Gandhi OR a Jayaprakash Narayan. Will Medhaji,Kiran Bedi etc lead from the front. These meeting should be organised in every village,town and state
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Vinod says:
January 31,2011 at 08:56 PM IST
Congratulations for the good beginning. Transparency in administration and accountability of politicians and bureaucrats be made a must. It is high time we support such a move and make our contribution towards corruption free India.
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Sachin says:
January 31,2011 at 11:29 PM IST
Please post the pictures of the event and motivate us
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aazadh says:
January 31,2011 at 10:15 PM IST
Rajesh, excellent article and timing is outstanding. I congratulate organizers. Lets hope our actions one day wipe out corruption from our nation. Lets analyze whats happening in Egypt,Tunisia 1. Tunisia & Egypt are both republic. But both have been virtual aristocratic. Since 2-3 decades. If their constitution had presidential term limits they wouldn't have to go through all these pain. 2. Revolution there picking up steam because people know who their enemy is. Its their president. Tunisian president Ben Ali fled country. In Egypt protesters main goal is to oust Mubharak. They have clear goal. But In India corruption is like Ravan which has multiple heads. There are multiple rulers who have stuck with power since decades. We have to have process to automatically evict these rulers. Term limits is the only rule which will ensure there will no rulers and get us public servants. Fighting corruption is very tough task. Virtually you are fighting with shadows. I hope you also agree If I say corruption can never be 100% cured. I am worried ,if your message 'Fight against corruption' would reach common man correctly. Other than passing this 'lokpal' bill what are goals that organizers looking for? I call for bigger and concrete goals of amending constitution with strong rules.
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RV says:
February 01,2011 at 12:15 AM IST
Great show and hope it is just the beginning. let's keep the momentum going and put relentless pressure to get rid of the chors and the corrupt system. We should start from the top who have tolerated and encouraged the culture of robbery. Let's learn from Egypt where a 30 year rule is about to end. March on my fellow INDIANS. Let's use every avenue to make this Revolution a success.
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harry says:
February 01,2011 at 12:29 PM IST
I agree with you. but people in " india against curroption" should have integrity also. what impression it gives when persons like Jatmalani is shown with others in the protest crowd. isn't it hyprocracy and disgeaceful for the movement.
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Vinay Gupta says:
February 01,2011 at 12:18 AM IST
We have to be a zero-tolerance society towards corruption. Are we willing not to marry our chidren to those families where money has been earned through corrupt means or by not paying taxes? Until we move decisively in this direction, real change will not happen. The rally of New Delhi is surely welcome, but changes must occur at the level of society because politicians are from amongst us only.
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mshagv says:
January 31,2011 at 05:51 PM IST
The message should penetrate the thick skin of politicians. To 'act'.
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Harry, Dubai says:
February 01,2011 at 12:50 PM IST
Well said. Yes, we first need to identify the goals - to evict this dynasty of Gandhis and all their chamchas. Second while we are identifying the goals & setting the agenda, NO POLITICIANS should even be allowed anywhere within 10 km. And we should also re-work / re-script the Constitution. Minimum qualifications : A graduate, criminal free record with impeachable integrity, Maximum two terms as MLA/MP etc.
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Bhagatsh says:
January 31,2011 at 06:56 PM IST
I joined this move. The begggning is very good. My request to everyone to educate more and more people to join this move. If done, it would save lots for us. Stoppage of black money means multifolds progress of India / Indains. More than enough have been written and commented so far. It it time now to come forward to register our anger against corruption. We all notice corruptions all around in our daily lives. The wise come forward to protest while the rest just opt to comment. Please join the most important move "India against corruption".
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Lal Narang says:
February 01,2011 at 12:08 PM IST
JUST YESTERDAY I HAD POSTED MY VIEWS ON THE SAME SITE INDICATING THAT THINGS ARE WARMING UP AND THE TIME HAS COME TO READ THE ALARMING SIGNALS. CERTAINLY WITH ANY UNTOWARD DEVELOPMENTS LIKE MORE CORRUPRTION EXPOSURES WILL ACT AS ACATALYST TO PUSH THE COMMON AMD MEAK POPULACE OF THIS COUNTRY TO RISE AGAINST THE LAXITY AND PROTECTIVE ATTITUDE OF THE GOVERNMENT GIVEN TO CORRUPT OFFICIALS AND MAFIA IN ALL SECTORS. THE DAY MAY NOT BE TOOFAR WHEN THE SIMILAR SCENARIO LIKE EGYPT ERRUPTS WITHOUT ANY WARNING.
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Rajesh says:
February 01,2011 at 09:23 AM IST
Fear of punishment and consequences is the only tool to tackle corruption. Even in the Western countries people obey the laws because of fear of being punished. Yes I do agree that the police and judicial branches are independent of the politicians for the system to have succeeded in those countries. However, if the crime has consequences people will think twice before breaking the law. India has long suffered because of its POLITICIANS and those THUGS are the ones we need to go after. Once they have been dealt with we can start restructuring our bureaucracy and the whole system where accountability becomes of paramount importance. It will take years but NOW is the time to launch the process.
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Munna says:
February 01,2011 at 06:15 AM IST
Dear Rajesh, please dont feel offended because I know you are biggest jombie of all kindly tell me those simple villagers from near by districts of Delhi were criminals you were talking about few weeks back? Politicians worry? Why my dear Rajesh? Dont we have election? Havent these so called corrupt politician elected by people of India through fair voting process? Can't people boot them out through voting process without your jombie class drama as they did in Bihar? Or is it that Jombies have lost faith in democracy. In a democracy corrupt politician should always worry because people will judge them every five years so you better explain us are jombies planning their little jasmine movement in Delhi while rest of India follows standard democracy so that you can cycle around in Delhi and sometime call villager around Delhi criminals and some time simple!!
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Arjun says:
January 31,2011 at 10:45 PM IST
India needs one more Independence.
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A Dias says:
February 01,2011 at 11:56 AM IST
Our Democracy is not of the People but of the Politicians and Political parties. It is disgrace to have such Democracy. Politicians have made the Country as their Prostitute. Every Politician becomes multimillionaire over night. We have more that 50% population below poverty line. Do we have any poor Politician in the country. Congress party has brought and flourished the corruption in the country. Country needs revolution to hang the corrupt. politicians. Corrupt people do not deserve to live. They must DIE!!!Confisticate all the loot from these looters. Country does not have laws to punish the corrupt because our political system itself is corrupt which is made by Congress and other political parties.
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Sharma M C L says:
January 31,2011 at 05:14 PM IST
Rajesh, support is there from entire India for a cause as noble as this. Full marks to you, Arvind Kejriwal and all those thousands who took the protest march. Glad to hear about policemen supporting this. This is just the beginning. Continuous, relentless fight against corruption would open the age old eyes of our politicians and we may see fresh young faces taking the rein of country's politics. Some of the protesters themselves may contest election in near future. If Rajesh Kalra is interested in politics, my vote during elections would be reserved !!!!
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I was at the march against corruption rally organised by Arvind Kejriwal’s ‘India Against Corruption’ organisation in central Delhi yesterday. It was a delightful winter noon with a gentle sun and a soothing breeze. The real icing on the cake, however, was the unbelievable crowd that had shown up on a Sunday afternoon.
In a country where increasingly we see crowds gather with great difficulty unless it’s a cricket match. Where almost every politician, save a few, has to necessarily orchestrate paid crowds involving buses to ferry them and inducing them with food, liquor, even money, for their rallies and still find few takers, the number of 30 thousand spontaneous crowd was heartening.
And what a congregation it was! School children, college students; I saw a few with IIT Delhi jackets, doctors, lawyers, armymen, housewives, simple villagers from districts around Delhi, nuns, sisters, pundits, gurus, were all there. Even the Delhi police constables on duty were helpful with one of them remarking to me – sab achche kaam ke liye aaye hain (All have come for a good cause).
I have little doubt that this spontaneous show of strength would have made the political class uneasy, more so with them witnessing the events unfolding in Tunisia and Egypt. While it may be too early to predict a similar uprising in India, for I think we are intrinsically far more stable and also patient, but my gut feel is that the way things are moving in this nation, the political class certainly cannot take things for granted any more.
The way people lapped up what was being spoken there was surprising, and at one level scary too. The no-holds barred speeches by the likes of Prashant and Shanti Bhushan, Ram Jethmalani, Medha Patkar, religious gurus and a bevy of others was something not heard at a public rally in a long time. Medha Patkar, especially, was devastating in her observations about the industrialists-political nexus.
The clear articulation of how most of our so called anti-corruption laws and bodies are useless, by the father and son activist lawyers duo of Prashant and Shanti Bhushan, too had everyone asking for more. That was followed by Arvind Kejriwal demonstrating how even the new probity bill being contemplated - Lok Pal - will be nothing but an attempt to pull wool over everybody’s eyes. I had discussed this in an earlier post (Don’t let up against corruption). Basically, all these so called bodies are made defunct by the babu-politician (and perhaps industrial lobbies) nexus even before they take wing by making them toothless. All of them have mere recommendatory powers and no more. Little wonder, therefore, that all their observations are treated by the powers that be with supreme contempt.
But as I said, if the mood in the gathering is any indication, all those who have been getting away with the loot of the nation, riding on the current toothless mechanism in place, need to worry.
The people of this nation are fed up of the platitudes being served by the rulers and administrators day in and day out. They are aware of the loot and plunder that is going on in the name of the poor. The Swiss bank account information is being actively pursued by an almost activist Supreme Court, as is the information on several other issues of public interest. We are all witness to growing anarchy. None can forget the burning alive of a senior government officer in Manmad by the oil mafia that indulged in fuel adulteration. The list of such brazen acts is growing at an alarming pace. Not reacting or taking it easy is no longer an option.
As a speaker at the rally extolled the gathering yesterday, we should now tell all political parties that we need genuine moves to curtail corruption and bring this country to some order. We need to ask them if they support the new probity law that empowers action against the looters. Only if we have unequivocal support from them that they are with us in this in right earnest can they seek our votes, else we will look elsewhere.
The message has to go across to as many as possible. On the Internet , there is a Facebook page called India Against Corruption (http://www.facebook.com/IndiACor?ref=ts&v=wall). We should all go there and register our protest and speak our mind. Let there be pressure points all around, so that those who have always escaped unscathed in their loot of the nation so far are made aware that their days are numbered.
Here is to a corruption free India.
Ankur Mehta says:
January 31,2011 at 06:11 PM IST
Just Make Narendra Modi the Prime Minister and see the Difference. We require Leaders and that too with a Vision. Ther is nobody on the National Scene with these Qualities except NarendraBhai. The Corrupt will hang themselves once he is the PM.
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KKK says:
January 31,2011 at 05:00 PM IST
30000 people in Delhi is just a beginning. Politicians will worry only when their seats are threatened. Now if 300000 people were to march in Rae Bareilly -- then indeed, Sonia Gandhi might worry!
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Sachetak says:
January 31,2011 at 05:48 PM IST
First of all, accept my congrats for your relentless efforts and contribution to make a grand success of the rally. I expected TV channels to cover the speeches live or it atleast give it prominent coverage in the news bulletins. Rajesh, there is still time, please take it up with the 'news channels' to telecast the gist of individual speech, by the respected speakers, one by one in its daily prime time bulletins. And this should continue for a week so that more and more viewers get to know of the 'fight against corruption' and participate in it.
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KD says:
January 31,2011 at 06:17 PM IST
The Bureaucracts have built such a strong fortress around them that nailing them has become almost impossible. The earlier Govts, including that of NDA, tried to demolish their cover but in vain. Theirs is the strongest UNION and unless they are leashed and tamed the 'loot' of nation cannot be stopped. The politician-businessmen nexus has also developed with the complicity of bureaucrats. It need be checked and contained forthwith. Tunisia and Egypt are burning and the iron is red hot here too. It is, therefore, the right time to strike the final blow. This CORRUPT Govt must go and the next one be given a stern warning that people will not tolerate wrong doing any more.
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Sheeba says:
January 31,2011 at 01:22 PM IST
Wish this gathering helps to the cause.. Small things can go a long way.. Hope this proves so in this case.. Only then will the other cities follow.. and Yes. u have my support.. n people will surely stand up.. We just need leaders to lead us. trust me!
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John says:
January 31,2011 at 06:47 PM IST
Our top leaders are shameless and they are ignoring public sentiments about corruption.The day is not far when there will an Inqualab Zindabad like Egypt and Tunisia.
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R.L.Raina says:
January 31,2011 at 01:37 PM IST
dear Sheeba.Our PM has dented his image by sheltering corrupt people.He and law knowing Home minister lied to Supreme Court in the appointment case of tainted CVC.Kapil Sibal telecom minister tried to belie the observations of CAG thus coming in support of A.RAJA who is responsible for making the government to suffer a loss of revenue of rupees 176000 crores. FM tried to bluff the nation for taking the steps tto recover black money parked in foreigh banks.Where are we heading to.
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Suresh Thakur says:
January 31,2011 at 09:05 PM IST
Dear Rajesh , We need to fight for a RE INDEPENDENCE , Independence from the corrupt , inept , nexus of politicians , bureaucrats and business houses with vested interests . this battle for re independence has to be fought by us INDIANS without any political support , without any leader , it has to be spontaneous by one and all . We have to be ready to sacrifice , in terms of delayed issuance of legitimate licences, permissions, without paying any bribes , we may have to endure delays , harassment and if we do some thing wrong by mistake be ready to face the consequences legally rather than wriggle out by paying bribes . The fight todays is more daunting and hard because we are now fighting our own masters , the BROWN SAHIBS , the ENEMY WITHIN . We have to fight this for our future generations so that we do not leave the Gen next a legacy of bankrupt country whose wealth is lying some where else while we struggle and suffer . LET EVERY ONE RISE AND ANNOUNCE ENOUGH IS ENOUGH . WE WANT THINGS DONE RIGHT WAY AND DEMAND A CORRUPT FREE GOVERNMENT AND SOCIETY . WE DESERVE IT AND WE DEMAND IT FOR EACH AND EVERY CITIZEN OF THIS ONCE GREAT COUNTRY .
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Gope Lalwani says:
February 01,2011 at 04:15 AM IST
Walk like an Egyptians! Egypt has set the precedence. Can Indians follow the suit and throw the corrupt Dynasty out?
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Sachetak says:
January 31,2011 at 07:58 PM IST
Rajesh, if there is a video of the coverage please have it put on the facebook and the 'india against corruption' website so that those who missed the rally they may also view and hear the speeches of the dignitaries.
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p c chopra says:
February 01,2011 at 07:10 AM IST
1.This is a wonderful beginning. 2.Next step is to popularise it and spread the message till atleast 5 million responses. 3.After that a PIL in the Supreame Court. 4.Election Commission to debar citizens with criminal and corruption cases from standing for elections. 5.Peaceful rallies in Delhi and state capitals.
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Rajnish says:
February 01,2011 at 11:06 AM IST
Can we do a Egypt and Tunisia in India. Rajesh, do you think this is step 1 to a civil revolution against the corruption in India. One small country like Tunisia doing a "Jasmine revolution" can start a Arab rising.. why not the March organised by Mr. kejriwal can do it. Please dont let this die.
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Amit Deshpande says:
January 31,2011 at 02:45 PM IST
Excellent piece Rajesh. Hope prevails. Indians are intrinsically averse to ostentatious display of ugly ill-gotten wealth. This is a first step towards an impending social revolution that will herald changes in the right direction.
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RV says:
February 01,2011 at 09:39 AM IST
Has anyone done the calculation. Assuming there is ONE TRILLION DOLLARS of ILLEGAL MONEY stashed away in foreign banks is brought back every citizen of INDIA from a newborn to the oldest can get ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS EACH {based on population of ONE BILLION}. Our economy will skyrocket and the benefits will be immeasurable.
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ck says:
February 01,2011 at 11:55 AM IST
The fact that such a important event appears as a blog and not a news item shows where the media's interests lie, not that it undermines the efforts, but they seem to be taking the normal common man as a given, its time to show them their place!
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LetsLOL says:
January 31,2011 at 03:39 PM IST
I have been following TOI's vote and many places where I wanted to comment on this subject(Corruption)I did comment in my own way. Though I am away from the country but I learn the magnitude of crime and corruption is increasing day by day. Off hand I know Ghaziabad is becoming the rape capital or rape city of India. Many cities are famous for political rowdyism so on so forth. I am aware that drugs flow freely amongst the pseudo Modernists in the name of broad mindedness. This morning it struck me that the best way to rein in corruption would be to bring more transparency in administration of essential services followed by strong Accountability. We have many rich people now in India even if each one of them takes one essential service and provides them IT backing we should be up and running and anti corruption campaign in our own way. Assume an essential service like power supply.Example of a breakdown at one of the homes the complaint can be lodged online and the officer in charge can see what is the expected lag time and let the consumer know it and after the lag time things are not fixed then the consumer can go a step further.Transparency be awarded to Journalists and Media who can give out aging reports and criticize the official or ask an explanation. We run support services for the whole world why can't these be provided in India for Indians. Then I recommended a Lok Ayukta type of board to be headed by well known personalities of cities, towns with authority to prosecute or charge a corrupt person. The committee I recommended should keep changing every 3 years and not a single member in this committee or panel should have any political affiliation nor should have had directly or indirectly be involved in any crime be it petty as one can think it to be. Many readers would think my comments are far fetched but I am an optimist and I know if the grass root levels are controlled then the upper levels will bow down. We should pursue this Passionately
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The guy in the green sweater says:
January 31,2011 at 04:45 PM IST
I remember seeing you at the meet, you asked me how I found out about the event... I got involved in this mission only weeks ago but it has driven me enough to stay awake till late after midnight every day, creating stuff for these people... I believe that India can change, and I guess everybody else who was there believed too, that's why they were there. Thanks for your vote against corruption
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spsingh says:
February 01,2011 at 04:49 PM IST
It is a very good begining.Let us unite and fight against corruption.But..but,I have seen Sampurn Kranti movement also, and how it got cornered by corrupt and opportunists.I wish this will not go the same way. Further assembly of certain persons on the dais may send out a mixed signal.While cleaning system is necessary and some changes in political as well as administrative setups are required,we must hit at the root of corruption.Rightly or wrongly, corruption has gradually been accepted as a normal phenomenon in society. Fighting this attitude is also to be attempted. We need a social and moral cleaning and here people like Ramdev Baba will be greatly helpful.
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S.M.Singru says:
January 31,2011 at 07:33 PM IST
Rajesh, your blog was indeed very inspiring & my mind went back to the post Emergency days of 1977 when we used to get goose pimples on hearing the speeches of some of the victorious Janata Party functionaries. But I am afraid we cannot read much in what has been achieved so far in the fight against corruption. Indeed, the Babu-Neta-Lala nexus is very well entrenched. And the basic fallacy is to believe that replacing one political party (or coalition) by another is going to make an important change. The only way to battle corruption is to modify existing constitutional arrangements & institutions and to set up new ones. For example, the present system of electoral arrangement & institutions will have to be changed to make them difficult to be corrupted. Similarly, the working of police & the investigative agencies needs to be drastically altered to eliminate (or severely restrict) its control by the political executive, retaining only its answerability to the judiciary. Currently, not much is being done to initiate thinking on these ideas & rather naively we seem to conclude that the large crowds at anti-corruption rallies is a very positive sign. This is dangerous because eventually, when these large crowds get disenchanted with the stubborn status quo, the feeling of confusion & disorientation may well propel the people to follow a clever demagogue who will promise them the moon in return for a de-democratisation of the political system. And this death of democracy would mean a long coma for many human values.
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Rakesh Katyal says:
January 31,2011 at 06:09 PM IST
It was an excellent beginning. I could not go but my daughter was there with her college mates. People are really fed up of this non governance. The best part of the movement is that it has no political affiliations. I hope we can keep it like that. There is no power like people power. Let us now consolidate the gains of 30 Jan gathering . When do we meet next ?
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Asamanja GHOSE says:
January 31,2011 at 06:11 PM IST
Thirty thousand or three lakhs, I am not at all optimistic. As long as we have a CIA-controlled government in Delhi running the country, more and more Rajas, Chavans and Kalmadis, will be there to ruin us. So the first thing to do is to get rid of all the CIA-agents we have in the government. Mind you, that is no easy task, because Obama is real smart SOB!!!
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Puneet Nayyar says:
January 31,2011 at 05:15 PM IST
I am really glad that we made a good beginning. More than what I actually expected. I truly believe that India can change. It might take more effort on our part. I am always game!
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Manish Singh says:
January 31,2011 at 09:52 PM IST
It couldnt have been better than this, I was involved with this movement for sometime now. Got couple of friends attend it as well but not enough. I hope in future all my friends will come out of the comfort zone and fight for something which is impacting all of us. We just need to rise and show people power. It wasnt just a movement, it was the movement we need. When people rise corrupt will fall.
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Rajeev says:
February 01,2011 at 01:15 PM IST
This is really a great development. However, Rajeshji, I am sorry to see that none of the media outlets, including yours, is covering the massive campaign on Corruption by Swami Ramdev. I am sure that even you would be aware of the fact that he is holding anti-corruption rallies in remote parts of the country every day (telecasted on Aashta Channel) where atleast 1 Lac people attend the same. The current mood against corruption is all due to Swami Ramdev's relentelss efforts which has now awakened a nation. As such, I am unhappy and puzzled that our media is blacking out the Bharat Swabhimaan Andolan against corruption completely.
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ashok says:
February 01,2011 at 10:15 AM IST
The mother of corruption is the President of the Congress Party and her family members. It is like a suspense movie, wherein the criminal acts like the protector of the public but in the end, his identity is revealed. Simoilarly all the dynastic politicians, like the DMK should be exposed thoroughly and should be thrown out of politics for ever.
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Prakash Nayak says:
February 01,2011 at 11:09 AM IST
Now is the right time.White faced liars like Pranab Mukherjee,who shamlessly teel lies on the Swiss agrrement vis a vis black money in Swiss Banks,and others should be made to face trial and not let off without punishment.With Tunisia,Egypt in the back-ground,our politicians will feel the ground shaking under their feet.Now is the right time - immediately.
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RANJAN SRIVASTAVA says:
February 01,2011 at 08:14 AM IST
V P Singh used Bofors corruption charges to topple Congress government and brought along with him instability, Mandal, Lalu, Mulayam and finally return of Congress under P V Narsimha rao. The problem is not limited to corruption at the top but it expands to morally defunct society. At present, there is no leadership available in India who can take the whole country on his/her shoulders towards a corruption and crime free India. Evolution of a credible leader and credible team is not on horizon. Society is not able to distinguish between right and wrong. The fix for wrought in society is much bigger challenge for Indians. The movement against corruption needs to have short term and long-term agenda to engage the entire country. The leadership of movement need to 1. Keep the movement going for many years to come 2. Ignite search for viable alternative to the defunct political system 3. Provide alternatives to the existing framework for governance by the people, current framework of governance is not delivering any succor to the vast majority of population, which is deprived of the basic infrastructure for employment, education and health 4. Provide an alternative electoral process, which reduces the use of money power in the elections and tracks the use of money in the elections 5. Engage media to voice the concerns of the poorest of the poor, if required create alternate print and electronic media platforms for debate on the issues faced by the nation 6. Promote morality by example in all the fields with the next generation and youth. This 6 point program with suitable timeline can be the core agenda for the movement and its successful implementation will transform the country to sustain its economic success and provide inclusive growth to every Indian.
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Asamanja GHOSE says:
January 31,2011 at 07:15 PM IST
I recommend Nitish Kumar instead. He has been successful in turning the "underdog" state of Bihar, the land of coolies, once upon a time not so long ago, into a respectable, almost corruption-free state, with the highest rate of economic growth in the country. Keep it up Nitish, I am proud of you. You are an example for India. Navin Pattnaik was also very good to start with, but the mining scam did him in. So, be careful Nitish.
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Ashish Kumar says:
February 01,2011 at 12:15 AM IST
What is being achieved is to go for simple and winnable action points that can make structural differences to fighting corruption. Corruption in India is hydra headed and the politicians and bureaucrats responsible for governance are themselves neck deep in corruption. Expecting them to take steps to change the constitution to eliminate corruption is impossible. Hence the only way is to apply pressure directly from various forums and media, that unless this Jan Lokpal bill is passed, India would go the Egypt/Tunisia way. The revolution in Tunisia was actually started by a small vendor who sold bananas.
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alok sen says:
January 31,2011 at 08:33 PM IST
The slow but determined push by the late Ayatollah put an end to the Despotic Rule of the Shah of Iran who started his rule in a "Sincere"mode.Events showed how he turned a terror with the advice from his hand picked cronies.Pre.Mubarrak is facing the same now(he appointed his son to be next President but he fled the country on the first signs. We do have similarities here with MANY scams,attrocities against children,women,tribals etc coming out as a cascading effect.We have a P.M who DID NOT use his "SPECIAL RELATION WITH THE U.S.PRESIDENT TO PROTECT OUR STUDENTS FROM THE BARBARIC (going to the Borgia period in Italy)pRACTICE OF MAKING THEM WEAR HORRIBLE LEG COLLARS. People are watching and they are BEGINING TO REALISE WHAT THEY CAN DO COLLECTIVELY.ONLY THING REQUIRED IS Mahatma Gandhi OR a Jayaprakash Narayan. Will Medhaji,Kiran Bedi etc lead from the front. These meeting should be organised in every village,town and state
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Vinod says:
January 31,2011 at 08:56 PM IST
Congratulations for the good beginning. Transparency in administration and accountability of politicians and bureaucrats be made a must. It is high time we support such a move and make our contribution towards corruption free India.
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Sachin says:
January 31,2011 at 11:29 PM IST
Please post the pictures of the event and motivate us
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aazadh says:
January 31,2011 at 10:15 PM IST
Rajesh, excellent article and timing is outstanding. I congratulate organizers. Lets hope our actions one day wipe out corruption from our nation. Lets analyze whats happening in Egypt,Tunisia 1. Tunisia & Egypt are both republic. But both have been virtual aristocratic. Since 2-3 decades. If their constitution had presidential term limits they wouldn't have to go through all these pain. 2. Revolution there picking up steam because people know who their enemy is. Its their president. Tunisian president Ben Ali fled country. In Egypt protesters main goal is to oust Mubharak. They have clear goal. But In India corruption is like Ravan which has multiple heads. There are multiple rulers who have stuck with power since decades. We have to have process to automatically evict these rulers. Term limits is the only rule which will ensure there will no rulers and get us public servants. Fighting corruption is very tough task. Virtually you are fighting with shadows. I hope you also agree If I say corruption can never be 100% cured. I am worried ,if your message 'Fight against corruption' would reach common man correctly. Other than passing this 'lokpal' bill what are goals that organizers looking for? I call for bigger and concrete goals of amending constitution with strong rules.
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RV says:
February 01,2011 at 12:15 AM IST
Great show and hope it is just the beginning. let's keep the momentum going and put relentless pressure to get rid of the chors and the corrupt system. We should start from the top who have tolerated and encouraged the culture of robbery. Let's learn from Egypt where a 30 year rule is about to end. March on my fellow INDIANS. Let's use every avenue to make this Revolution a success.
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harry says:
February 01,2011 at 12:29 PM IST
I agree with you. but people in " india against curroption" should have integrity also. what impression it gives when persons like Jatmalani is shown with others in the protest crowd. isn't it hyprocracy and disgeaceful for the movement.
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Vinay Gupta says:
February 01,2011 at 12:18 AM IST
We have to be a zero-tolerance society towards corruption. Are we willing not to marry our chidren to those families where money has been earned through corrupt means or by not paying taxes? Until we move decisively in this direction, real change will not happen. The rally of New Delhi is surely welcome, but changes must occur at the level of society because politicians are from amongst us only.
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mshagv says:
January 31,2011 at 05:51 PM IST
The message should penetrate the thick skin of politicians. To 'act'.
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Harry, Dubai says:
February 01,2011 at 12:50 PM IST
Well said. Yes, we first need to identify the goals - to evict this dynasty of Gandhis and all their chamchas. Second while we are identifying the goals & setting the agenda, NO POLITICIANS should even be allowed anywhere within 10 km. And we should also re-work / re-script the Constitution. Minimum qualifications : A graduate, criminal free record with impeachable integrity, Maximum two terms as MLA/MP etc.
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Bhagatsh says:
January 31,2011 at 06:56 PM IST
I joined this move. The begggning is very good. My request to everyone to educate more and more people to join this move. If done, it would save lots for us. Stoppage of black money means multifolds progress of India / Indains. More than enough have been written and commented so far. It it time now to come forward to register our anger against corruption. We all notice corruptions all around in our daily lives. The wise come forward to protest while the rest just opt to comment. Please join the most important move "India against corruption".
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Lal Narang says:
February 01,2011 at 12:08 PM IST
JUST YESTERDAY I HAD POSTED MY VIEWS ON THE SAME SITE INDICATING THAT THINGS ARE WARMING UP AND THE TIME HAS COME TO READ THE ALARMING SIGNALS. CERTAINLY WITH ANY UNTOWARD DEVELOPMENTS LIKE MORE CORRUPRTION EXPOSURES WILL ACT AS ACATALYST TO PUSH THE COMMON AMD MEAK POPULACE OF THIS COUNTRY TO RISE AGAINST THE LAXITY AND PROTECTIVE ATTITUDE OF THE GOVERNMENT GIVEN TO CORRUPT OFFICIALS AND MAFIA IN ALL SECTORS. THE DAY MAY NOT BE TOOFAR WHEN THE SIMILAR SCENARIO LIKE EGYPT ERRUPTS WITHOUT ANY WARNING.
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Rajesh says:
February 01,2011 at 09:23 AM IST
Fear of punishment and consequences is the only tool to tackle corruption. Even in the Western countries people obey the laws because of fear of being punished. Yes I do agree that the police and judicial branches are independent of the politicians for the system to have succeeded in those countries. However, if the crime has consequences people will think twice before breaking the law. India has long suffered because of its POLITICIANS and those THUGS are the ones we need to go after. Once they have been dealt with we can start restructuring our bureaucracy and the whole system where accountability becomes of paramount importance. It will take years but NOW is the time to launch the process.
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Munna says:
February 01,2011 at 06:15 AM IST
Dear Rajesh, please dont feel offended because I know you are biggest jombie of all kindly tell me those simple villagers from near by districts of Delhi were criminals you were talking about few weeks back? Politicians worry? Why my dear Rajesh? Dont we have election? Havent these so called corrupt politician elected by people of India through fair voting process? Can't people boot them out through voting process without your jombie class drama as they did in Bihar? Or is it that Jombies have lost faith in democracy. In a democracy corrupt politician should always worry because people will judge them every five years so you better explain us are jombies planning their little jasmine movement in Delhi while rest of India follows standard democracy so that you can cycle around in Delhi and sometime call villager around Delhi criminals and some time simple!!
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Arjun says:
January 31,2011 at 10:45 PM IST
India needs one more Independence.
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A Dias says:
February 01,2011 at 11:56 AM IST
Our Democracy is not of the People but of the Politicians and Political parties. It is disgrace to have such Democracy. Politicians have made the Country as their Prostitute. Every Politician becomes multimillionaire over night. We have more that 50% population below poverty line. Do we have any poor Politician in the country. Congress party has brought and flourished the corruption in the country. Country needs revolution to hang the corrupt. politicians. Corrupt people do not deserve to live. They must DIE!!!Confisticate all the loot from these looters. Country does not have laws to punish the corrupt because our political system itself is corrupt which is made by Congress and other political parties.
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Sharma M C L says:
January 31,2011 at 05:14 PM IST
Rajesh, support is there from entire India for a cause as noble as this. Full marks to you, Arvind Kejriwal and all those thousands who took the protest march. Glad to hear about policemen supporting this. This is just the beginning. Continuous, relentless fight against corruption would open the age old eyes of our politicians and we may see fresh young faces taking the rein of country's politics. Some of the protesters themselves may contest election in near future. If Rajesh Kalra is interested in politics, my vote during elections would be reserved !!!!
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