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Monday, November 8, 2010

Kashmir Is Integral Part of India – Cosmo Theorist Dr. Raj Baldev Traces History

Kashmir Is Integral Part of India – Cosmo Theorist Dr. Raj Baldev Traces History
Comments by Dr. Raj Baldev, Cosmo Theorist


MIL/GBA, Oct 26, 2010

http://www.internationalreporter.com/News-6208/kashmir-is-integral-part-of-india-–-cosmo-theorist-dr-raj-baldev-traces-history.html


New Delhi, India: October 26, 2010 – IR Summary/GBA – Cosmo Theorist Dr. Raj Baldev, assailed the remarks of Activist Arundhati Roy who said Jammu and Kashmir is not an integral part of India. Dr. Raj Baldev traced the history to prove that Kashmir is integral part of India.

Cosmo Theorist Dr. Raj Baldev, who is the Lead Man of God Believers Association (GBA), formerly known as National Integration Assembly (NIA), dedicated to national and international integration & Word Peace, explained here today in his regular address to members and non members of his organization that the remarks of Activist Arundhati Roy are contrary to Accessional historical facts of Jammu & Kashmir; On the contrary, the remarks carry misguiding factors.

Cosmo Theorist Dr. Raj Baldev, said, “ I feel that Activist Arundhati Roy has created this controversy, perhaps, without going into the background of the whole affair.
“If Jammu & Kashmir is not integral part of India, it is also not the integral part of Pakistan,” Dr. Raj Baldev, Cosmo Theorist said.

Dr. Raj Baldev, Cosmo Theorist, who is also a famous Social Reformer, a greatly respected being multifaceted personality, who has been invited by different heads of state on goodwill mission abroad from time to time and also led various delegations of MPs on goodwill missions.

‘ I have been privileged to be near almost all the top leaders of this country as well as Mr. Jinnah and facts of Kashmir,” Dr. Raj Baldev, Cosmo Theorist, said.

Kashmir issue became the bone of contention between Pakistan and India not because it had a predominantly Muslim population ruled by a Hindu Maharaja, but liking for Kashmir State was already in Mohd. Ali Jinnah’s mind and soul and that’s why wanted to get it included in Pakistan. And when he could not succeed in getting it included into the state of Pakistan at the time of partition of India, he decided to get it by hook or by crook.

“I gave my views on Kashmir in chapter 5 titled “Pak Attempt to Grab Kashmir” in 1975.” Cosmo Theorist Dr. Raj Baldev said.

He further elaborated:

“What to talk of Kashmir, the idea of Pakistan struck to Sir Mohammad Iqbal, he had interpreted the assembly of words as under:

“P for Punjab, A for Afghanistan (North, West Frontier Province), K for Kashmir, S for Sind (Sindh) and TAN, last three words for Baluchistan. Thereafter the name of Pakistan was mentioned in 1933 by a group of some patriotic students at Cambridge.

When this matter was discussed by a national group of thinkers with him on the idea of Pakistan, Iqbal himself denounced this idea in 1930 at the Allahabad session.
To take the back thread for Activist Arundhati Roy, at the time of Partition there were around 555 small and big states whose allegiance to the British Crown were automatically ceased with the ending of the British rule and though they were independent principalities, their merger to either India or Pakistan were geographically important and they empowered to exercise their own options.

By August 1947, the heads of 552 States except those of Hyderabad, Kashmir and Junagarh agreed to sign Instruments of Accession and Standstill Agreements under which they had to surrender their powers in three fields, i.e. Foreign Relations, Defence, and Communications and maintaining unchanged arrangements in other matters.

Of 255 States, 216 smaller States were abolished as separate units and merged into the most geographically suited provinces; 275 were integrated to form five new unions, one ruler from each State taken as the head carrying an equivalent position of a provincial governor to be called ‘Rajpramukh’ and the solution of remaining 61 States immediately seemed inappropriate; they were thus taken under the direct administration of Government of India.

It was a big task accomplished by Sardar Vallabhbhai Patael, who was also States Minister; he persuaded the princes to accede to India with their own will and pleasure without any pressure after apprizing them of all the advantages of doing so.

Coming back to the topic of Kashmir, the Maharaja of Kashmir Hari Singh was absolutely free to accede to India or Pakistan but before he could arrive at such an important decision, the Pak tribesmen from the northwest frontier of Pakistan supported by Pak Army invaded Kashmir and made advances up to Srinagar.

The Maharaja of Kashmir got puzzled as to what right course he should adopt while the enemy had nearly encroached upon the capital of his State. So far the Army of his State was concerned, it neither was properly equipped nor was well trained to fight back the tribesmen who were reinforced by Pak regular forces at the base. Obviously, the only alternative left with the Maharaja was to approach India for immediate military assistance.

The Maharaja, on October 27, 1947, appealed the Indian Dominion to come to his rescue and simultaneously executed his willingness to accede to India, Jawaharlal Nehru, the then Prime Minister of India, after having emergent consultations with Lord Mountbatten, Mahatma Gandhi, Vallabhbhai Patel and other Members of Parliament, ordered air-lifting of para-troopers and armed forces to move against the invaders.

Neither war-maps, nor the exact fighting position nor any other military data were readily available with the Indian Army and Indian Air Force; still they managed to drop their para troopers to push back the tribesmen. It was a great risk taken by India; it is always criminal to risk the troops in absence of proper war-maps, conjectural assessment of the enemy strength and the latest battle position especially of the unfamiliar hills.

A fierce fighting went on both sides, One side Indian troops and on the other well equipped Pak regular soldiers in the garb of tribesmen; however, India won the battle and it was the first occasion after Partition when Pakistan played foul tactics and was defeated by the Indian Army.

In January 1948, India brought the case before the UN Security Council on the plea that the invaders were well trained, equipped and directed assisted by Pak regular Army at the rear. Though Pakistan denied the charges in the first instance but later on admitted.

A commission was appointed by the United Nations to arranges cease-fire which recommended that the future of Jammu & Kashmir should be decided by a plebiscite vide UN Resolutions dated 13 August 1948 and January 5, 1949. The hostilities in which both Indian and Pak forces were engaged came to an end with the cease-fire agreement of January 1, 1949.

As the Kashmir dispute pursued, it became worse and subsequently the cease-fire became a de facto frontier, each part of Kashmir being incorporated in practice in the territories of its occupying and supporting power. Many efforts were made by Gen. AGL McNaughton, Adm. Charles Nimitz, Sir Owen Dixon and Frank Graham between , 1950-1952, to sort out the problem but failed. Even Prime Ministers of India and Pakistan failed to reach any final agreement.

Technically and legally speaking, so far India is concerned, it is perfect within its right of holding its armed forces in Kashmir since the Maharaja of Kashmir had already executed the accession of his State to India and Pak claim becomes frivolous. The people of Jammu & Kashmir exercised their voting rights, chose their own govt. own representatives, naturally it is an integral part of India.

Tags: Kashmir, Integral Part, Activist Arundhati Roy, Dr. Raj Baldev, Cosmo Theorist, GBA, God Believers Association, National Integration Assembly, NIA, 555 States, Maharaja Hari Singh, acceded, Pakistan, Jinnah, Iqbal,

Wednesday, September 29, 2010

Kashmir Is Too Small For Azadi- Kashmir is about 7% in area of undivided J&K, and about 15% of J&K under Indian control by Kaul

Kashmir Is Too Small For Azadi- Kashmir is about 7% in area of undivided J&K, and about 15% of J&K under Indian control by Kaul
 


courtesy: http://kaulonline.com/blog/2010/09/kashmir-is-too-small-for-azadi/


 

Headline on CNN about Leh floods: Death toll from Kashmir flooding rises to 112
Correction: Leh is not in Kashmir. There was no flooding in Kashmir.

A Vaishno Devi Pilgrim: I just returned from Kashmir. Things are peaceful there.
Correction: Jammu is not in Kashmir. There is no jehad in Jammu.

A University of Texas Website Article: refers to the 1999 war in Kargil, Kashmir
Correction: Kargil is not in Kashmir. It is in Ladakh province.


One of the frequent gripes that Kashmiris have about people from mainland India is that they don’t understand Kashmir and Kashmiris. That is true to a large extent. One of the myths that needs to be broken is that “Kashmir is J&K”, because it is actually only a small part of it – 6.98% to be exact. Even the saying that “From Kashmir to Kanyakumari, India is one” is not correctly worded because Kashmir is not the Northernmost part of India; Ladakh is. And if you believe in the official Indian map, then Gilgit and Aksai Chin are the Northernmost parts, none of these being part of Kashmir. Kashmir is well South of the Northern tip of India, so it is geographically a natural part of India. Even Azad Kashmir or PoK (Pakistan Occupied Kashmir) is not Kashmir. In this blog post I will explain why this discussion is important, considering the existing imbroglio going on in the Kashmir valley.

It has served some of the players in the game well to confuse the issue of Kashmir’s location and boundaries as much as possible. Most people, when asked about where Kashmir is on a map, will point to the “head” shape on the top of an Indian map and say “here it is!” (see the black arrow in the map below). They could not be farther from the truth. Look at the following map and see for yourself where Kashmir actually is.

The above official Indian map shows the complete state of Jammu and Kashmir as part of India, and the rough boundaries of Kashmir are shown in red. For a more “non-partisan” view, click the map on the right from Wikipedia, showing the Kashmir valley within a red boundary line.

Now, what is the difference between Kashmir and the state of Jammu and Kashmir? Well, Kashmir is the dispute and J&K is not. Kashmir is the Muslim majority area and other parts of J&K are not. Kashmir is what is shouting “Go India Go” (This is not a cheer in Kashmir!) and other parts are happy being India. Kashmir is a small part of Jammu and Kashmir. Compare the following land areas:

 
Area of Kashmir: 15,520.3 sq km (Wikipedia)
Area of J&K under Indian Control: ~101,400 sq km (Forest Survey Website)
Total Area of Undivided J&K: 222,236 sq km (Wikipedia)



Thus Kashmir is about 7% in area of undivided J&K, and about 15% of J&K under Indian control.

So, how do you define Kashmir? Well, the best way to define it is to ask Kashmiris themselves. In Kashmiri language, everything outside the valley is called “nebar”, i.e., outside or foreign. Kashmir is a geographically smaller portion of the larger state of Jammu and Kashmir, which comprises the provinces of Jammu, Kashmir, and Ladakh. Kashmir is Kashmir province only, comprising of previously undivided districts of Anantnag, Baramulla and Srinagar (now divided into 10 smaller districts). Kashmir is where Kashmiris natively live and where Kashmiri language is natively spoken. It is also this region of Kashmir that has dominated the politics of the region for the last 63 years.

Now, why is this distinction between Kashmir and J&K always fudged and why is this distinction important? It is this small part of the state that is a pain in the neck for India, because it is this Muslim majority portion that is holding the whole state and region to ransom. It is this Muslim majority portion of 7% of the state that cannot see itself fitting in a non-Muslim India. Jammu in the South of the state has a Hindu majority population, ethnically similar to neighboring states of Punjab and Himachal Pradesh; Ladakh in the North of the state has predominantly Buddhist and Muslim population, ethnically similar to neighboring Tibet. Both are fine being India. It is just Kashmir that is inhabited by a large majority of Muslims (97%) that cannot see itself being India. The small population of non-Muslims has diminished with each migration and a history of conversions over decades and centuries. It is this geographically small portion that is the tinderbox of violence. It is this beautiful valley that was called Heaven on Earth and has now been turned into hell by the Islamic separatist violence. It is the majority of inhabitants of this small area (not of the state) who are clamoring for azadi (independence) for this small land of Kashmir. The diversity of the state fits perfectly well within diverse India, but this diversity does not belong to the green-flag waving, stone pelting separatists of Kashmir.

It has been a political compulsion for every party in the game to keep the disparate parts of this former princely state cobbled together. Jammu, Kashmir and Ladakh have nothing at all in common. Each has its own dominant ethnicity, its own dominant religion, its own topography, its own climate, its own diverse culture, its own distinct major language. No other state in the region has such intra-state diversity. 

Even India’s linguistic reorganization of states in the 1950s did not result in a division of J&K because of its “special status”. India apparently wants to keep the state together because Jammu and Ladakh act as a bond between Kashmir and the rest of India. India perhaps thinks that separating Kashmir out will be the first step towards its complete secession from India. Pakistan, on the other hand also keeps J&K clubbed together so that it can lay claim to the whole state and perhaps negotiate away the non-Muslim areas if it comes to a negotiation. For the same reason, apparently, they named the area they occupied as AJK (Azad Jammu Kashmir) when it is neither Azad nor Jammu nor Kashmir. The languages spoken in PoK are Pahari, Mirpuri, Gojri, Hindko, Punjabi, Pashto (Source: Wikipedia) and none of these languages is even close to Kashmiri. The people living in PoK are ethnically different from Kashmiris. This also means that the LoC has created no divided families.

But what is the compulsion of Kashmiri separatists to keep talking about J&K, when they actually are only bothered about Kashmir? Kashmiri Muslims, in their arguments against Indian rule say that they are ethnically different, they have a different dominant religion, and so on. Most of them don’t see themselves as Indians. But then, it is exactly those things that set them apart from Ladakhis and Jammuites, who do see themselves as Indians. 

In fact, Kashmiri Muslims have been fighting against the rule of Dogra King from Jammu even before they started fighting against Indian rule. So, how do they resolve this paradox? How can they lay claim to other conquests or purchases of the Dogra king when they fought against being under the Dogra king himself. Ladakh, Baltistan, and Gilgit were not even part of the state when Dogras purchased it from the British. Apparenlty, Kashmiris have two main reasons for talking about J&K, rather than Kashmir — one, since Pakistan no longer remains a flauntable destination, and with Islamic extremism having lost its flavor the world over, they need to be seen as desirous of a “secular azadi”, rather than an “Islamic accession to Pakistan”; secondly, it gives them something to bargain for with India.

The fact that Kashmir is actually a very small part of Jammu and Kashmir has other ramifications too. Since Jammu and Ladakh are happy being part of India, it makes no sense to impose so called “azadi” on them. Now that leaves Kashmir with its 15000 sq km area as one of world’s smallest land locked countries – bigger than only Vatican City, Luxembourg and couple of other non-countries. How valid and how long-lived will this “independence” driven by Islamic fanaticism be? Obviously, since they will have just divorced India, they will be absorbed into Pakistan in no time. This is what some of the Kashmiri leaders want in the first place, but is that what most Kashmiris are bargaining for? Will they get a special status like Article 370 in Pakistan? Does such a small land area have enough resources to sustain itself as a country?

The fact that Kashmir is actually a small part of Jammu and Kashmir also negates the “democracy logic” for separation of Kashmir from India. Yes, majority is authority in a democracy, but the majority concentrated in a 7-15% area of a state taking or influencing a decision for the whole state is equally undemocratic for the rest of the state. Why would a Dogra person living in Kathua want to live under Nizam-e-Mustafa? Kashmir is flanked on three sides by areas which are definitely India, and on the fourth side by an area occupied by Pakistan. For a sovereign democratic country, how large does a locality have to be to give its residents a right of self-determination? For the sake of democracy, does it make sense to ask a Muslim majority mohalla in Hyderabad or Meerut whether they want to stay in India? In fact, if we give any credence to Kashmiri Hindus’ demand for their piece of the homeland (Panun Kashmir), which they want to be an integral part of India, Kashmiri separatists are left with even less of a “country”.

In retrospect, the only solution that would have made more sense would have been, in 1947, to carve out the valley and give it to Pakistan. That did not happen because of the incongruent composition of the state — a Hindu king ruling a state composed of Hindu, Buddhist and Muslim regions. If that had happened, the region would have been much more peaceful. My community (the Kashmiri Hindus) would have been settled in other parts of India, just like other migrants from Pakistan were. Whether Kashmiri Muslims would still have been happy, it is hard to tell. But I am sure there would have been no “freedom movement”. Now, with hindsight being 20/20, Kashmiris should thank heavens for the incidents of 1947 and be happy they are not part of the failed state of Pakistan.

Azadi just doesn’t make any sense to me. If Kashmiri Muslims see themselves primarily as Muslims aligned with Pakistan, then accession to Pakistan makes sense. If they see themselves as secular, inclusive people, then what is wrong with being part of India? All others in the state, other than Muslims of the valley, see themselves as Indians.

As an Indian, I see it clearly that the trouble in the valley has reached cancerous proportions. Although it is hard to stop the rest of the country from bleeding in case of an extreme measure, it may make more sense to either cure it completely or cut it off. Either integrate the valley completely into India (no Article 370, no autonomy, no special status) or cut it off. Blast the Banihal Tunnel and let them go to…. heaven. Kashmiris should however stop the hypocrisy of secularism, azadi and caring about Jammu and Ladakh. Go be “independent” or join Pakistan and see if your future generations are thankful to you for that. Given the small size of Kashmir, and the size of area already with Pakistan and China, it won’t make much difference to India’s map. And then, who is to stop us from keeping showing it in India’s map?

It is painful to see the violence, the killings, the inconveniences in Kashmir. But why are people getting killed? Isn’t the presence of army in Kashmir the consequence, rather than the reason, of the separatist movement? If the religion inspired protests end in Kashmir, would anyone be hurt? Kashmiri separatists know the answer to this. They know they can stop getting their children killed any day, but then, how will they get Sharia and Nizam-e-Mustafa?

However, no-one in the Indian government has the willpower to facilitate either of the extreme solutions — full integration or full severance. So, it is in the interest of Kashmiri Muslims to go for status quo ante: give up fighting, stop the anti-India jihad and start going to schools, offices, cinemas, gyms, even bars. Go into pre-1989 mode, sans Hindus. Hindus have already been pushed out – they will never return. They have never returned in the past — just keep renewing your fake invitations. You can continue dominating the rest of the state. With Article 370 intact, you make sure you can settle down anywhere in India, but no outsider settles down in Kashmir. So, you can have the best of everything. Just drop the stones.


20-Sep-2010
An update: Read my next post on the subject: Is Kashmir Not Even That Big?. This is based on additional information from the BBC site.



Tags: azadi, India, Islam, Kashmir, Pakistan, Separatism


Kaul says:
September 20, 2010 at 8:12 am

I did not say the people who want to separate from India are small in number. I said they are a majority but concentrated in a small area and should only talk about that area, instead of imposing their will on people of other regions. As far as referendum is concerned, first of all that is for the government to answer. I am just giving my opinion as an Indian citizen. But, as a citizen I can say couple of things: According to terms of the referendum, forces were to come out of Pak Occupied areas. Are you asking for that? Also lot of other irreversible changes have happened in the region since 1947. Just saying referendum is not enough. Kashmiris can decide for Kashmir, not for Jammu. Should they? That is the point of my article. If ever a referendum is held, should it be separately held for different regions? In fact other regions are not even asking for a referendum. What about the Dards in areas like Gurez and some other border areas, where I understand there is no azadi sentiment? Should they decide for themselves or just be voted for by the Kashmiri separatists? The point of my article is that if you believe in Kashmiri exclusivity and Kashmiriyat as your being separate, then why are you including other areas in your demand? I personally would like to see the valley go, so I am kind of with you. The only thing is I cannot see why you guys cannot think of living with us. If you leave religion aside, we can all be prosperous together.



I have written this article not as a Kashmiri Pandit but as an Indian citizen. It is just that compared to other Indians, being from Kashmir gives me more insight into the nature of the issue . However, I speak for 99% of Indians who subscribe to the nation’s integrity. Although some Kashmiri Pandits are fighting for a place in Kashmir and many of them will disagree with me, I personally do not see a chance for us to return to Kashmir. So, whatever stake we had in Kashmir, we have lost it, or rather have been robbed of it. But you don’t want to take Jammu away from us too, do you?

Although our migration from Kashmir was forced, most such migrations are one way streets. Even before the mass-migration in 89-90, we did not have opportunities in Kashmir proportional to our abilities. Though there was a facade of communal harmony there was a certain kind of apartheid that prevailed — in jobs, in educational institutions, and in society in general. Even now the KMs don’t desist from using derogatory terms like dali-battas and dali-gadwas for us on Twitter, etc. These and other name-calling we used to face in daily life. So, we were leaving in bits and pieces anyway. When we are speaking against Kashmir’s secession, we speak as Indians, not Kashmiris. I have even given up that much to say that India should let Kashmir go, if it can’t cure the malaise. Just don’t force your religious bigotry on non-Kashmir regions. It is like a parent painfully letting a cantankerous child go, but asking him not to talk about taking the other kids along.

Vinay says:
September 20, 2010 at 12:07 pm

Dear Kaul!

Kudos to you!!

Thanks for posting this piece of article and forcing me to think and re-invent myself!!!

There are several posts on several websites related to Kashmir issues from various angles well researched and well addressed but at the outset I sincerely admit that this too is a great piece of writing provoking the thought process. It has touched the nerve and triggered the desired chain reaction!!!!

But at the same time I have few observations to make:

1) When I read it first time, I knew that you had limited your research to geographical orientation of Kashmir. But you could not prevent yourself from falling into the trap of socio-political-economic-religious dimensions ruling the whole issue. You have managed to just brush through these issues even though against your wishes. The reason being that this trap has such a gravitational pull like a black hole in space that sucks everything into it and leaves no trace of the identity that got sucked into it. Only outcome being black hole growing stronger and much stronger leading to a big bang ultimately.
2) Then I read it several times all the while when the comments from different angles kept on pouring in and added many dimensions to the article including those ones that were taking shape within me. And I am sure many more dimensions will be added to this article.


3) Some of the other dimensions that have not been discussed so far in this article and I would like to draw the attention of all the contributing participants are listed hereunder:


a) Genesis of the word Kashmir itself.
b) Birth, history and progress of Islam in the whole world. This is essential because of two reasons. One reason is to understand Islam, particularly its violent nature. The other reason is highlighted in subsequent points (c), (d) & (e). Though the present article posted by Mr. Kaul did not have the scope for it but I am sure the subsequent posts on this article cannot prevent themselves from discussing this issue. And I would advise all to search the statements


“GENESIS & PROPAGATION OF HINDUISM”
“GENESIS & PROPAGATION OF ISLAM”
“VIOLENT NATURE OF HINDUISM”
“VIOLENT NATURE OF ISLAM”
“WAS PROPHET MOHAMMED A PEDOPHILE?”


on any search engines and I am sure all readers will be surprised by the analysis offered by various sites for these statements. And if participant is keener for academic purposes please do search for following statements too:


“GENESIS & PROPAGATION OF CHRISTIANITY”
“VIOLENT NATURE OF CHRISTIANITY”
“LIFE & TIMES OF JESUS CHRIST”
“ISLAM VERSUS CHRISTIANITY”
“ISLAM VERSUS HINDUSIM”
“CHRISTIANITY VERSUS HINDUISM”


This is important because the three religions are the topmost religions all over world and comparisons are obvious.


c) Progress of Islam in Southeast Asia in general (particularly undivided India – Vrihat Bharat that included Kandahar, Pakistan, India as of now, Nepal, Bangla Desh, Rangoon, etc.) and Kashmir in particular.


d) The growth of Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism and other religions – born out of Hinduism as a sub-sect and their growth as self-righteous wonderful religions themselves.


e) The key principle of AHIMSA underlying Hinduism and the religions grown out of it vis-à-vis the violent undertones of Islam.


f) The exodus (I term it a holocaust or genocide) of Kashmiri Pandits (KP’s) from Kashmir Valley. Well this issue has been touched in the subsequent discussions and contributions but I feel on periphery. No KP has dared to lay bare his / her bleeding wound.


g) The lack of leadership in KP’s. The pathetic disharmony amongst KP’s and the resulting self abnegation or self denial mode of KP’s of not willing to go back to Kashmir Valley and recover all that that belongs to them righteously.


h) The kind of facilities provided to Kashmiri populace (read it Muslim population for there are no Hindus available in valley now). How can you justify rice a kilogram per two rupees in Kashmir vis-à-vis a kilogram per ten rupees in rest of the country that is India? This was around two decades back. The things may be little different today but ratio probably will still be the same or may be has widened further. Our Kashmiri Muslim brothers may please enlighten us on this issue. As on today, the cheapest rice available in rest of India (other than Kashmir) is costing Rupees Thirty per kilogram distributed through PDS (Public Distribution System) exclusively meant for the sector that is below poverty line. And all participants please note that example of rice is just a symbolic representation of facilities enjoyed by Kashmiri populace. I will be happy if I find a surprise here that counters my observation.


i) The current rate of unemployment amidst youth in Kashmir! Is it not prevalent on the same (or may be even bigger) scale in rest of the country? Is it attributed to non-development alone? Are not there other factors that contribute to this issue? And topmost contributing factor being the population explosion against the limited resources and opportunities. Whereas Hindus and other religions have been quick enough to recognize this fact and have taken corrective & preventive measures, what corrective & preventive measures have been taken by Islam to arrest this explosion within its frame of social / society engineering?


j) The recent outburst by stone-pelters on the streets of Kashmir, they claim was in crucible for many years. Yes, I am in full agreement with it albeit for different reasons. It was in crucible for years together. It was being cooked to precipitation for week-long protest by Mr. Masarat Alam Bhat in jail. The fuel was ignited in March this year and dish was cooked to its taste by fomenting it as per the plans of Mr. Masarat Alam Bhat culminating it into recent killer weeklong protest. Everything of these weeklong protests went precisely according to plans and wishes of Mr. Masarat alam Bhat even though some lives were lost. (Please read The Times of India dated 17.09.2010) And my dear Mr Muslim Friends and ilk please wake up to reality that you and your causes are being hijacked and mis-utilized by rabid personalities like Mr. Masarat Alam Bhat, Ms Asiya Andrabi (her own kids are studying abroad and getting the best possible education for them), Ms Mehbooba Mufti Syed (whose sister, Dr. Rubaiya Sayeed was supposedly kidnapped by terrorists while she was enjoying all her comforts back home at official residence of one muslim fellow in Sopore and had taken whole country for ransom and in return for release of some dreaded terrorists Sheikh Abdul Hameed and Nabi Butt from Indian Jails. And please recall Mr. Yaseen Malik was one of the key players in this episode. Read electronic edition of much respected Pakistani newspaper Dawn dated 19.03.2003) and the rabid clan of all such people.


k) Human rights violations in Kashmir. Well any such violations are to be condemned and discouraged out rightly. There is no replacement for loss of life in any form and more so importantly for human life. (This is what lies at the core of Hinduism that gave birth to philosophy of AHIMSA). But what does a soldier do when he is performing his duties against all odds? Does he not need to protect himself against these hostile odds? And beware my friends the odds in Kashmir throw many surprises for these soldiers. The philosophy of AHIMSA does not teach a soldier to be a coward. On the contrary it needs a great deal of courage to practice it which only an immortal soul like Mahatma could practice. It is beyond the capacity of us mortals. So if the chief of defense services creates a net of safety around his soldier to safeguard him and his rights where does he go wrong? I remember one particular incident that my grandmother related to me once. Sometime (around forty years back), when things were very peaceful in Kashmir Valley, an army truck was being driven through the streets, a chicken flew out of nowhere and got entangled into the wheels of the truck. The whole community descended on the army truck abusing the hapless soldiers and India and shouting pro-Pakistani slogans. Wow! Great!! Was that chicken a citizen of Pakistan? Did these soldiers deliberately invite the poor chicken to fly into the truck? Is it not rabidity at its peak? Did these poor soldiers have no rights? Were they not to be protected against such rabid mindset? Is it not violence? Is it not representation of violent Islam at its best? So what human rights are we talking of? Are we not playing sham with this phrase? Is it that human rights exist only for one side that shouts its throat soar for an injury grave or trivial, real or imaginary and it does not exist for the other side? Kashmiri Muslim must learn the ways of AHIMSA first. Islam must adopt and practice AHIMSA first.


l) Rampant corruption in state administration in Kashmir. Who is governing state? Hindu? Kashmiri Pandit? Is National Conferrence a Hindu Party? Is PDP a Hindu Party? Or any other party in Kashmir province being governed by Hindu? So who is to blame? Hindu? India? Wake up my dear friends hold yourselves against mirror and question yourself. Test your own integrity against your much beaten word Kashmiriyat. You are fooling yourself. You are living in a world of self deception.
m) My dear Muslim friends from Kashmir. What is your identity? Travel back in time for couple of generations. You will know your forefathers were Kashmiri Pandits who were forced to accept Islam by the barbarian act of Aurangzeb and his cronies. Do you not still carry the family names as Bhat, Pandit, Mattoo, Chaudhary, etc., etc. albeit with changes in spellings but maintaining the phonetic essence? And Pakistan disowned you for there was no place for Mujahirs in its state. So to prove to Pakistan and to rest of the Islamic world that you are more Muslim than any other Muslim in Pakistan or rest of the world you resorted to methods of blackmailing Indian state

Thus said so far I would like to add few more points before I close. The details for points from 3(a) to 3(e) can be browsed through any search engines on internet and I advise all readers to enlighten themselves before adding any remark here so that I gain from your point of view and become richer by reading and understanding you. The points from 3(h) to 3(m) are self-explanatory and I would again love to get richer by the views and counter-views from you all.

I now take up discussion on points 3(f) & 3(g). Well Mr. Kaul you are a liar when you say that you do not want to go back to Kashmir because you have nothing at stake there. Well you do not want to go there because your professional and family commitments keep you away from Kashmir is something different than you being thrown out of Kashmir with given no choice of return. Is it not genocide / holocaust? Will you be able to find a suitable match for your offspring with in your community while you are away from Kashmir? Won’t your offspring surprise you by finding a match outside your community? Had you not been thrown out of Kashmir would your offspring not have looked for the match in your own community? Is it not genocide / holocaust?

Then where are leaders amongst Kashmiri Pandits? All are Daali Battaas. We can not unite because we have no ground. We can not have leaders because we are Daali Battas. So we are bound to suffer. So why we crib? So live the life of self denial or self abnegation by repeatedly consoling ourselves with the words that, “I DO NOT WANT TO RETURN TO KASHMIR BECAUSE ALL IS LOST FOR ME AND I HAVE NOTHING AT STAKE THERE”.

Lastly, I would advise my fellow participants to understand the pains of partition through the writings of writers of those times, Saadat Hassan Manto in particular whose grandfather was a Kashmiri Pandit. Before partition Manto was haunted by Britishers. After partition Manto migrated to Pakistan and was again haunted by Pakistani Sate for his writings. And he was termed as Badnaam Manto. Read his masterpiece Toba Tek Singh, where in he states something like, “EK GADHI KE PET SE DO GADHOON NE JANAM LIYA, EK KA NAAM HINDUSTAN RAKHA AUR DOOSRE KA PAKISTAN.” Ain’t it apt? Are you listening my Muslim friends?







vijay kumar says:
September 22, 2010 at 12:38 am

Kaul sahab,

I read your blog with great interest. Hving lived in Jammu for many years in my school days I have special memories of the area.

I am now sending you my ideas for a solution on Jammu, Ladkah and Kashmir. I hope you will read them with interest.
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Trifurcating JAMMU, LADAKH and KASHMIR-
a solution to India’s problems


Jammu and Kashmir, the northest part of united India, is our pride and yet today is crying needing our helping hand and a healing touch.


So many formulae have been tried in the J&K and yet nothing seems to work as finally the separatists and the Pakistanis start creating problems and violence. Let us now, as Indians, seriously take up the proposal for tri-furcating J&K. This makes sense seeing the history and the violence which has almost killed 50,000 people.

This will strengthen the secularism of India. If we can have separate states of Ladakh and Jammu, and Kashmir is reduced to 2500 sq km, things will be easily managable.

The Kashmir problem which looks sizeable on the world map would immediately be reduced to the size it actually is. To a narrow strip of land, 30 km by 70 km in size.

We could then use our resources to win over the hearts and minds of the people in this strip of land. As well as create a good infrastructure for tourism and industry.

Let us at this point also remember that today, as Ladkah has been hit by a cloudburst and the population out there suffers and Sikhs In the Kashmir Valley are being asked by separatists to convert to Islam and join the violent movement, it is the separatists in the valley who are hogging the headlines and consuming all of the state’s budget….

The need for this tri-furcation has never been as urgent as now….

The salient features.

a) Kashmir should be divided in such a manner that the river flow to the rest of India is unhampered. And our military and civil administration can have a better control over the borders and insurgents.

b)Terrorist violence basically happens in 2500 sq km. Once J&K is trifurcated, it would be easy for the army and the civil administration to control 2500sq km

c)A plebiscite will never happen as we are too strong to let the world force us. However in case of a hypothetical situation that it does, then India has the right of taking the vote of Jammu, Ladakh and Kashmir.

d) Pakistan has already integrated Baltistan as a seperate state, so we have to see what others are doing. In fact they have changed the demographic pattern of Muzzafarabad and occupied Kashmir so that Punjabis are in a majority.

e) Once kashmir is reduced to 2500 sq km, it will make the separatists realise that their dream of a small landlocked independent country is futile.

f) We can revoke section 370 for Jammu and Ladakh immediately after trifurcation so that patriotic Indians from all over the country can buy land and settle there.

g) Ladakh has Lakes, mountains, and calmness as well as Buddhist tourist spots. A huge potential exists. While Jammu attracts lakhs for the Vaishno Devi Yatra.Once they shine, Kashmiris will be inspired to give up the gun and join the mainstream

h) People of Jammu and Ladakh have time and again asked for separate states or UT status. Let us make them as states. Srinagar can be the capital of all three distinct identities of Jammu, Ladakh and Kashmir, and would be a Union territory.

i) There is a huge section of people in Kashmir, Hindus, Sikhs and Muslims who always favoured India over Pakistan or freedom. They would always remain with us. Infact they would work with double zeal to get their brothers who have been misled, back into the mainstream.

j) We should remember that tri-furcation is not secession or ceding ground to Pakistan. Infact, by dividing states in the North East of India we have considerably managed to reduce the regional tensions. Further on, division of PEPSU led to three happy states of Punjab, Haryana and HImachal. And more recently, the creation of Chattishgarh, Jharkhand and Uttrakhand has led to a fast paced development of these areas….

At the end of the day all people from the J&K region would be proud to be Indian. Currently we are holding the people of Jammu and of Leh-Ladakh hostage to the political machinations of a few outsiders.

Why should we not, as Indians, push our government to start working on this tri-furcation?


Thursday, September 23, 2010

The Hindu : News / International : Pakistan “exploring” possibility of bilateral engagement with India



Pakistan “exploring” possibility of bilateral engagement with India
ANITA JOSHUA
ISLAMABAD, September 24, 2010


Islamabad says for a result-oriented dialogue, ongoing atrocities in Kashmir must stop

Despite the volley of words with India over the past week, Pakistan on Thursday said the possibility of a bilateral engagement in New York on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly “is still being explored through diplomatic channels.” Evidently as part of sizing up such a possibility, Indian High Commissioner Sharat Sabharwal had a meeting in the Foreign Office early afternoon but neither side was forthcoming with details.

Drawing up the parameters for such an engagement while maintaining that these were not conditions, Foreign Office spokesman Abdul Basit reiterated Pakistan's stated position that “if India is willing to resume a comprehensive, sustained and result-oriented dialogue, Pakistan will welcome the move.”

However, he added that ongoing atrocities in Kashmir should be “stopped forthwith” because if India was genuinely looking forward to a result-oriented dialogue, it was incumbent on it to improve the situation on the ground.

Krishna's invitation

As for Foreign Minister Makhdoom Shah Mahmood Qureshi accepting the July 15 invitation of his Indian counterpart S. M. Krishna for another round of talks in India, Mr. Basit said this would depend on whether India agreed to a comprehensive and sustained dialogue. “Our Foreign Minister has said on several occasions that rather than meeting for photo sessions, we should get down to real hard business and try to resolve our disputes, normalise our relations.”

Rejecting the theory that Pakistan was putting conditions, the spokesman said Islamabad would never accept nor set pre-conditions for talks. “What we are saying is let us negotiate. Unlike India's stance following the Mumbai attacks, our position is based on principles. We have said let us start, let us resume our negotiations. Our negotiations should be comprehensive covering all issues, should be uninterrupted and meaningful. Logic demands that if two countries are resuming their negotiations, then the process should be all-encompassing.”

‘No propaganda'

Mr. Basit maintained that Pakistan had not launched propaganda against India over Kashmir. The ground realities spoke for themselves and “it is Pakistan's duty to sensitise the world on what India is doing in Jammu & Kashmir.”

On the Indian all-party delegation's visit to Kashmir, Pakistan's stance is that unless India introspects, takes a fresh look at its “unhelpful” Kashmir policy, stops treating the State as its integral part and “stops harping on seeking a solution” within the Indian Constitution, no meaningful discussion can take place.

Cosmetic measures

While asserting that cosmetic measures by India would not resolve the issue, the Foreign Office, in a suo motu statement, countered Indian reaction to Pakistan Parliament's resolutions on Kashmir as “self-serving” as J&K is an international issue and subject of several U.N. resolutions.

The statement drew strength from the concern being voiced by the international community on the situation in Kashmir: The U.N. Secretary General's call for an “end to the deadly violence,” the Organisation of Islamic Conference Secretary General's call to “end violence against innocent people in Kashmir,” the Amnesty International's demand to ensure respect for the Kashmiri people's “right to life” and the Human Rights Watch demand for an enquiry into human rights abuses in the State.

Keywords: India, Pakistan, bilateral ties, UNGA

Tuesday, September 14, 2010

Jagmohan behind Exodus of one million Muslims in Swat valley by MR. Satya Prakash

Jagmohan behind Exodus of one million Muslims in Swat valley
by MR. Satya Prakash

MAY 12, 2009 • 4:09 AM

Pakistan is buckling under the pressure of Islamic jihadis created by its intelligence agency I.S.I,  A group of unemployed, unethical, blood thirsty lechers.

Who probably have nothing to do with Sufi philosophy of Islam, and who call themselves Taliban are conveniently using Islam for killing and torturing innocent people in SWAT valley of Pakistan.ISI’s baby has grown monstrously to swallow even the present Pakistan.

As a Human being, I have soft corner for one million Pakistanis who had to fled from Taliban controlled Pakistan. One million Pakistanis have become refugees in their own land exactly the same way as Kashmiri Pandits who are spending their 20th year in Exile.

In both cases it is the Pakistan’s ISI who is primarily responsible for the exodus.

ISI had conveniently used Islam as an effective tool to eliminate the Kashmiri Pandits from Kashmir by employing the local Kashmiri Muslims as terrorists to kill On the name of Islam.

For last twenty years we have been asked the following question a thousand times
“As to why did KPs leave Kashmir”? 

Many people have answered this question on our behalf without even asking us.

First and at the forefront to answer it on our behalf was the propaganda machine of JKLF who spread the rumour that Jag Mohan wanted to annihilate KMs and as such asked KPs to clear Kashmir so that his such a plan could be acted upon. This of course was trash but what is important is that this vicious thought was cooked in the ISI’s rotten cooking pots just to drive a wedge between well meaning KMs and KPs as these KMs (very few though) could have otherwise questioned targeting innocent KPs.

The second group to ask this question is the Pakistanis who we meet at neutral venues of the world. These people are so blindly awash with Paki propaganda that they can not separate chafe for the grain.

The third group who asked this question is the unconcerned sections of Indian population, these people are so comprehension less that even if a Bangla Deshi illegal Immigrant was to become their CM or even the PM they would not even notice or find anything untoward in it.

But my KP brothers and sisters, this question has finally been answered by none other than the God Almighty himself, who is the most merciful and just.

We were just 600,000 who were made to run for our lives and the Honor of our womenfolk by the conditions that prevailed in the then J&K. Today over 1,000,000 Muslim Pakistanis had to run away from Swat and Bunker and these numbers are swelling by the minute.

Now what has

i) ISI machinery and its stooge JKLF or Hurriat Conference to say as to why 1,000,000 Pakistani ran away form their own lands.

ii) What have overseas Pakistani to say about the same and can they compare this scenario with KP’s plight.

iii) What have Pakistanis in general to say about the ejection of one million fellow Pakistani swatis from their home and hearth.

Things have come a full circle, “Bakre ki Maa kab tak Khaair manayege”.
Time of reckoning (Kayamat ka din) for the perpetrator of Kashmiri mayhem may not be far away.

Inputs by MR. Satya Prakash

Sunday, June 13, 2010

If the hand which is to wield the surgeon’s scalpel itself in rotten with gangrene, how can it self construct?

It is only when Indians are abroad that they are shamed into embarrassment about the crass corruption and loot in India. Corruption is the gravest internal & external security threat facing India, not Maoists or Pakistan, and Manmohan would have done well to address it. 


But how can he? If the hand which is to wield the surgeon’s scalpel itself in rotten with gangrene, how can it self construct?

Japan is known to be corrupt. USA and even countries in Europe too are corrupt but only in the rarefied altitude of boardrooms. They have successfully managed to barricade sleaze within the club of  rich and powerful.

If the hand which is to wield the surgeon’s scalpel itself in rotten with gangrene, how can it self construct?

If the hand which is to wield the surgeon’s scalpel itself in rotten with gangrene, how can it self construct? 


It is only when Indians are abroad that they are shamed into embarrassment about the crass corruption and loot in India. Corruption is the gravest internal & external security threat facing India, not Maoists or Pakistan, and Manmohan would have done well to address it. 


But how can he? If the hand which is to wield the surgeon’s scalpel itself in rotten with gangrene, how can it self construct?

Japan is known to be corrupt. USA and even countries in Europe too are corrupt but only in the rarefied altitude of boardrooms. They have successfully managed to barricade sleaze within the club of  rich and powerful.

Sunday, May 30, 2010

COMPARATIVE SOCIAL INDICATORS- India and Pakistan-1

jairam says:
what are you trying to say ,what is the final CONCLUSION ,are you trying to tell that pakistan is better than India ? the world knows what is India and pak.


in your comparsion what you have posted see what he says .


COMPARATIVE SOCIAL INDICATORS
(Most Recent Estimates)
India
Pakistan
Life Expectancy (in years)
60.7
61.8
Adult Literacy (in percent)
50.6
36.4
Female Literacy (in percent)
36.0
23.0
Gross Enrollment Ratio (combined – in percent)
55.0
37.0
Access to Health Services (in percent)
85.0
55.0
Daily Caloric Supply Per Capita
2,395
2,316
Underweight Children Under Five (in percent) 
53.0 
40.0
Infant Mortality (per ’000 births) 
81.0 
89.0
Total Fertility Rate 
3.8
6.2
the other comparison is 10 years old ,have seen the recent once.
15 years is a lot of time go and see the latest comparison my friend.



COMPARATIVE SOCIAL INDICATORS- India and Pakistan-1

jairam says:
what are you trying to say ,what is the final CONCLUSION ,are you trying to tell that pakistan is better than India ? the world knows what is India and pak.


in your comparsion what you have posted see what he says .


COMPARATIVE SOCIAL INDICATORS
(Most Recent Estimates)
India
Pakistan
Life Expectancy (in years)
60.7
61.8
Adult Literacy (in percent)
50.6
36.4
Female Literacy (in percent)
36.0
23.0
Gross Enrollment Ratio (combined – in percent)
55.0
37.0
Access to Health Services (in percent)
85.0
55.0
Daily Caloric Supply Per Capita
2,395
2,316
Underweight Children Under Five (in percent) 
53.0 
40.0
Infant Mortality (per ’000 births) 
81.0 
89.0
Total Fertility Rate 
3.8
6.2
the other comparison is 10 years old ,have seen the recent once.
15 years is a lot of time go and see the latest comparison my friend.



Monday, May 17, 2010

Rehabilitation of Militants-III : Return and rehabilitation of the misguided youth to National fold By Daya Sagar

A Look through the mist
Rehabilitation of Militants-III : Return and rehabilitation of the misguided youth  to National fold
By * Daya Sagar

( * Daya Sagar is a Sr coloumnist of Kashmir affairs and a social activist  dayasagr45@yahoo.com) ' 

General Amnesty to those who wage war against a Nation  (country) is not so simple a  “gesture” as it may be seen by many. Waging  a war against a Government  by its own people could  be (category i)  a movement  to change the government in place or the system of governance  without out questioning  the  nationality of those in the government, (category ii)  or could be a movement to change the government  in place or the system of governance  by questioning the Nationality of the Government and those in the Government . Where no questions on the nationality are involved the solution could be simple. The  cases initiated against the agitators could  be withdrawn , local governance systems could be modified , localized preferential  programmes could be drawn  and those who took the law in their hands could be  taken in the mainstream. 


But where the challenges to Nationalities are thrown, the general amnesty does not simply rest in material rehabilitation. Where the terrorists / militants / insurgents  from the main lands had been involved  in activities challenging the Nationality  of the government in place , the job of general amnesty is not that simple. The insurgents  who express desires for returning to mainstream out of their having realized  the truth being otherwise  have to be tested before granting amnesty. A process has to be also simultaneously  initiated for their ideological  reconstruction. The ideological reconstruction requires hard work at the level of the government. 

The  programme drawn out by Omar Abdullah lead J&K Government  with the approval of GOI   (for accepting the Kashmir youth from across LOC who  have expressed  desires to shed arms & separatist ideologies ) falls in the category (ii). The draft of the action plan being prepared by State government for submission to GOI will have to time tested. 

Its success will depend more on 
(i) how Government of Pakistan (POK)  accepts officially the programme for the return from across the LOC / international 

(ii) how the identification of Kashmiri  youth in POK is done 

(iii) by whom and how will the certification of intentions  of repentant  youth be done 

(iv) what  programme is drawn to involve the social organizations / community leaders to undo the propaganda of the anti India elements and 

(v) the cadres of political parties , the academicians and the intelligentsia work on ground to defeat separatist ideologists ideologies  so that the inland misinformed and misguided youth too are  ideologically rehabilitated.


Kashmir like approach need be adopted in other parts of India too. In case such like demands come from other State governments also, it should be welcomed by Government of India.  Rather GOI must come out with a Department or Commission  to be installed in place for such work. The challenges of both category (i) and Category (ii) could be sensed in other  areas also. Athough majority of the suffering Indian States suffer from challenges of category (i) only. But if not taken seriously  the enemies of India  can easily turn the local socio economic resentments to  anti India (separatist) movements . The separatist movements may not appear succeeding immediately but would cost heavily on the peace and development of the people of the rural backward Indian people.


Indian State of Punjab has been the worst victim of the Separatist like movement in 1970s and 1980s. There have been instances  where the separatist drafts promoted during 1947 days  were  attempted for cultivation.  Designs did not succeed. But some  seeds and grafts are still dormant . At occasions  the leadership has attempted to agitate the Sikh sentiments. The operation blue star  and the 1984 riots  after Indira Gandhi was shot at have been used all these years by some to arouse the sentiments of Sikhs.




The memories of the Punjab terrorism have again been made live by the Sikh leaders  after GOI expressed agreement with J&K Chief Minister for granting amnesty to Kashmiri militant youth who may wish to return from POK. Demands have been made that similar approach should be adopted towards Sikh youth too. The Home Minister P. Chidambram should have immediately nodded to the suggestion but he did not. No time should be lost  by GOI for extending similar offer to Sikh youth aswell . Any delay will  provide more opportunities to the politicians for exploiting the innocent.


It was on 18th February that the  Punjab Chief Minster Parkash Singh Badal had said that  Government of India  must have one national policy on one issue . Badal  welcomed the Kashmir initiative as positive and demanded  that the same be widened to include other similar cases like that of  the Sikh youth. Union Home Minister  P. Chidambaram had earlier  had ruled out the possibility of allowing the affected Sikh youth to return to the country in the same manner as the Kashmiri youth would be. 

The Punjab Chief Minister  also disclosed that state  government had prepared a list of wanted Sikh Youth settled  abroad   and had  many a times asked the Union Government to review the lists  for amnesty.  As per Mr. Badal  the Sikh youth who  had to leave the country under some kind of duress, repression or implication in false cases should also be considered for a similar opportunity ( amnesty ). The observation made  by Parkash  Singh Badal has laid serious accusation on the government of State and Union for having falsely implicated the youth in anti India activities. The way Badal has accused the Government for false implication of some youth would rather add to more doubts in the mind of Sikh youth about the Intentions of Union of India.  


Mr. Badal should immediately make public  list of such falsely implicated youth and those Sikh youth who want to return to Indian main stream shedding the demands like that of Khalistan. Similarly SAD President / Dy CM Sukhbir Singh Badal claimed that is a large number of Sikh youth who had nothing to do with militancy but who had to flee the state because of police repression prevalent in the state at that time and many Sikh youths had taken  political asylum in foreign countries including Pakistan in 1970s and 1080s. Any how one may ask that why did Sukhbir Singh Badal or Prakash Singh Badal raise this issue only after Omar Abdullah made some suggestions on February 7? .

Mr. Badal  did refer the demand of his party during his meeting with the Union Home Minister P Chidambaram while he was at Amritsar on February 20. Earlier on Februaray13 Akal Takht Jathedar Giani Gurbachan Singh too emphasized that the list of black listed Sikhs should be reviewed ( as per Mr. Singh there are nearly 200 innocent Sikhs who have been branded as black-listed merely for expressing the truth before visiting Indian leaders in foreign countries and now they want to return to main stream ). The Jathedar  has advised such  individuals for sending their representations  mentioning  the issues, resentments and problems to the Akal Takht . SGPC must prioritize this issue and provide the documents to Punjab Government. Since the suggestion has come from the  highest temporal seat of Sikhs both center and state should address to the issue with commitment. Amrinder Singh Ex Punjab CM has accused  that GOI is extending rehabilitation offer to those who are still  engaged in militancy  in J&K where it has shown reluctance for extending such offer to those  ex Sikh insurgents who have since  shunned arms long back (a list of 50 odd  youth from Canada duly cleared by the  High Commission was  carried  back home  when he was CM and he had taken up with Ministry of external affairs ). 

SGPC Chief Avtar Singh Makkar  too has said that 100 such Sikhs had approached Akal Takht who had been  denied the chance to visit their home although  they have no criminal cases against them. As per Makkar the  entire community  ( Sikh) was angry about Operation Bluestar and many of them  had held public protests ( Why should such reactions  be held a charge against them , he has asked ).Punjab remained militancy  affected for over 15 years . Many Sikhs were put on an ‘adverse list’ (‘black list’) . No doubt some Indian Kashmiri and some Indian Sikh youth  had taken to militant ideology for waging war against India had taken asylum abroad . 

And now when some of them have realized their folly (as claimed by Omar Abdullah and Badals) and want to return to their home , there lies no logic in being selective for extending amnesty to only Kashmiri youth, and not to the Sikh youth. BJP  Amritsar MP  Navjot Sidhu has named it a   discrimination with the people on the basis of their  state  and religion. So no opportunity should be given to any one to allege that Government of India is adopting discriminatory attitude against Sikhs.  No doubt there has to be a serious, workable and reformist action plan for careful identification of the beneficiaries of the general amnesty. Union government  must not waste more  time in taking decision in this regard. No doubt law has to take its own course . Those who were involved in heinous acts of crime, could also  be tried in the court of law and the rest should be given soft  home coming. ( * Daya Sagar is a Sr coloumnist of Kashmir affairs and a social activist  dayasagr45@yahoo.com)

Thursday, February 25, 2010

Philosophy-- 8-Kashmir Problem- Solution

Philosophy-- 8- Both India and Pakistan should leave the hatred of religion and sit together to find a most viable solution for Kashmir for the betterment of their people. Indians should accept the LOC as International Border and so should Pakistan thereafter sealing of the entire border line is to be done.



In other words a line is drawn for both. This may be difficult to accept but this will stop the killing of many innocents in future, if this issue is not resolved. Those wanting Kashmir as separate nation on the basis of religion should look in retrospect and find that it was already done in 1947 and happily they can go and live in any country they want.

Philosophy-- 10- Brihad Karma Theory propounded by Satyabolbaba

Philosophy-- 10- Brihad Karma Theory propounded by Satyabolbaba



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